Woah! Myspace is controlled by Big Brother.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by StpLSD25, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    STP, you are so clueless it is sad :(

    I don't think you have even once grasped any ideas behind any of my responses to you regarding the manner in which you present yourself.
    You just immediately jump off into another rhetorical spiel against this group or that group.

    The sad part is you are apparently blind to your own actions.

    Things are never as black and white as you paint them, nor will they ever be.
     
  2. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I don't paint things black and white. But government force is wrong! I'm not painting any groups, or people, as "bad."

    I'm just saying it's wrong to force your will on others, and you think I'm wrong?

    I think it's sad you think we need government force. I guess you never got harrassed by power hungry cops and government officials like I have. There is obvious hypocrisy in Government support; Mainly, that you cant get peace through violence!

    I'm not even paying attention to you, you want to poke holes in my views with insults, cause you can't think of one more thing to say to support government force, so you just act like a dick. You've always been this way to me. But I've been very concise why I believe this way. Government is bad, it's never been good; and there's nothing they do, that citizens couldn't. I hope you grow out of your dependency on government, and realize self reliance is better. But it's an intellectual awakening of Mankind, and I can't force it on anyone.

     
  3. SunshineChild

    SunshineChild Mad Scientist

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    Even Hipforums says explicitly "Big Brother is watching you on the internet" when you sign up. Right in the first term.

    :hide:
     
  4. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Yeah, Skip posted a topic saying he had to foward certain posts to government.


    I argued the First Amendment, but you know, he's just followin' orders to keep his head above water.
     
  5. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    No, I'm not down for that either as long as religious organizations stay out of politics. If they stay out, then government should stay out of their affairs.

    Gay marriages can be performed by civil judges imho, pastors and priests can opt out whenever they want.
     
  6. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Yeah I agree. I think many churches would actually willingly marry gay people, it's just the government's involvement making things complicated.
     
  7. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Where in the holy hell did I say that???????

    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN!!!!!!

    I say one thing and you go whole-hog thinking I am on "the other side" and start crediting me with shit that YOU are fucking saying I believe or actions I take or fail to take.

    You do this to EVERYONE that does not agree with you, yet you insist you are conducting a reasoned and rational conversation????

    At the risk of getting sanctioned I'm going to just come right out and say what a LOT of people here think.


    You are a fucking idiot!!!
     
  8. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I said, the only people I don't agree with are people who think we need government force, and people who think government force serves the greater good worldwide, THEN, you called me Clueless.

    Well, you sir are the ignorant, clueless idiot. What is the HUGE picture I'm missing ass whipe? Again you'll just say nothing. Just the fact you need to throw insults at me show me you disagree, but have nothing intellectual to say. So Vaffanculo Di Ratti! Parassita!
     
  9. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    The big picture you are missing is that people don't fit into the nice convenient little boxes you have created in your mind, yet you insist on placing people into them based on little more than whether or not they agree with you politically.
    I have never, as you pointed out, directly engaged in a dialogue with you solely about my political affiliations, actually I go out of my way to NOT profess that I "belong" to one camp or the other.

    But you have judged me and in your mind affiliated me with any one of a number of political groups/movements that are in "opposition" to your personal ideals/affiliations, yet you do so based on nothing more than the fact that I have not agreed with your political views.
    Not agreeing with you does not mean I agree with your opposition. That is what I mean by "everything is not black and white".
    In your mind if someone is is not in support of you, the only other option open is they are against you and support the "other side".
    You have exhibited that in just about every response made to anyone not in agreement with you.
    How naive and myopic, the earmark of a poor education and poorer faculties of rational thought and logic.

    That is why I say you possess a dangerous and fascist mentality, because you are judging me not by what I say or do, but rather on your faulty assumptions concerning what I should say or do relative to your beliefs.

    I think every fascist leader has had the same general mentality.
     
  10. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    That's not the only reason. You get mad, yell and curse me out, but say nothing of substance, so what am I supposed to think? I don't have "camps," it's the Dems, cons and libs in their "groups." Al I say is, either you support the current federal government, or you don't. And even with people who do, that's fine. People have the Rights to think and speak freely, all that I oppose is violence on non violent people, and I will never believe there's any "grey" areas on that one!

    That's bull shit. Every facsist has the mentality that they want to cause harm on others to get their views across! Fascism is totalitarianism (total government) and I believe in exactly the opposite (little to no government.)

    However, people who think government force is protecting us, are supporting the most evil terrorists in the world, so sorry if I may have displayed some disgust toward government sympathizers, when people are murdered and punished for victimless crimes everyday by our illegitimate federal government. The whole system is rotten through, I'm not missing anything. If anything, government sympathizers are missing all the bad things about government, because of American Exceptionalism. It's not okay to support "some" new governance, when the whole Role of Government, has become the whim of a few.

    So idc what you think about me anymore. I do see the big picture and it's that government is too big and invasive!
     
  11. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Government sympathizers are just pissed, cause their love of taxing and forcing people into submission, is not sustainable.

    I am speaking words, none of which cause physical harm. If I can piss you guys off this bad, just by saying we need less government, it goes to show how brainwashed and reliant the sheeple really are.
     
  12. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    So how's the weather in your area today?
     
  13. SunshineChild

    SunshineChild Mad Scientist

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    Windy from all the government surveillance choppers here.

    They're looking for pot plants.
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    I reactivated my MySpace page the other day... Government isn't beating down my door yet.
     
  15. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    It was rainy when you asked; It's beautiful and sunny out today however.

    Noxious I know I was rude, ignorant and, a total asshole when I got here to HF. I think a lot of people mocked my beliefs and I fought back twice as hard. (Angerly.) I'm not angry anymore. I have come to know you guys and what different people believe (except you.)

    In Converse though, I feel like my passion makes you guys feel intimidated and/or think of me how I was when I first got here, and I'm not. I'm not gonna argue with someone over what should be a conversation; I think you guys mistake my conversation for argument, when I'm just try to help you see the bigger picture. (That Government is destructive to peace, unless it's controlled by the people.)

    http://rt.com/shows/politicking-larry-king/ron-paul-857/
     
  16. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Why do you assume that others or myself DO NOT see the "big picture"?

    From my perspective it appears that you assume that if a person does not agree with you, they must not be "getting the big picture" and that is the start of just about all your issues when trying to converse about these topics with others.

    I will ask you again, have you ever considered the possibility that I or some others may fully understand the issue, completely see "the big picture", and whatever else, and still just simply not agree with your conclusions?

    That is where you seem to have a real problem.
     
  17. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I don't have that problem. I said people don't have to agree with me. I know people who think the governments corrupt, but more governments the Answer. I said people can believe that, I just don't think it makes sense.

    We don't all have to have to same conclusions, but as I said, all these "parties" support the status quo; Liberals fit in that same catagory (Although they love to blame republicans.) Maybe they do see a good chuck of the picture, but they still want to restrict others freedoms, and therefore, are just as bad as the Republicans they allege to differ from!
     
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