With ironic respect. Should we thank God that religionists are such hypocrites?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Nov 21, 2018.

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  1. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Jewry for one, Gnostic Christianity for another, which had a better view than what Christianity put on scriptures when they usurped the Jewish God.

    Eden, for instance, was where man was elevated to the Jews who wrote that myth. Christianity chose to see it as a fall, and has been stupidly trying to twist that myth to a fall.

    Do you see, they have become as Gods, which God says in Gen 3 was the culmination of the prior events as good or evil for man?

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  2. Okiefreak

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    I like Christianity. Judaism is a fine religion, but Christianity is more inclusive. By fusing Greco-Roman mystery religion onto a Jewish foundation, Christianity fashioneded a set of memes that has done quite well in the marketplace of ideas. Gnosticism, on the other hand, is too esoteric for the contemporary scene--even for the ancient one. No, I don't see that anybody has become Gods--not even close. It's talk like that that turns me off from Gnosticism.
     
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  3. GreatestIam

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    Only those who support homophobia, misogyny and inquisitions will think Christianity, with it's genocidal satanic God will thing Christianity a good religion.

    You forget that Gnostic Christianity is not as large as it should be is due to inquisitions and murder by Christians.

    You prefer the murderers instead of their victims.

    Nice morals that. Not.

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  4. You're all a bunch of hypocrites. Selfish, self-centered prats. I wish Christ had taught you all to shut your mouths and be humble, but I guess he didn't emphasize that point enough. You talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
     
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  5. GreatestIam

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    Said while saying nothing. Thanks for showing your low I.Q.

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    I read all of your questions and answers and wonder if this is how all Gnostic Christians are? Sitting on my high and mighty chair telling everyone my religion is the only/correct one, everybody else worship a genocidal son murdering satanic God.

    You don't set a very good example for the Gnostic religion. Instead of convincing this genocidal son murdering satanic God worshipper to think and look deeper into the Gnostic belief with your posts, I just think to myself "fuck that shit, if this is their kind of attitude"
     
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  7. One thing you can say about the Christians, they really know how to take it on the chin with a smile. I doubt you'll ever get into a conversation this deep with an Islamic fundamentalist. So by all means, keep going after the easy target of your ire, it's the safest bet. Bag on Christians all you like, they can take it.

    However, they might not engage the conversation for very long as they come to realize you're just spewing frustration instead of trying to have an honest dialog. I'll never understand why anyone wants to bag on someone's faith. Really, what's it to you what other people do in their own time?

    Reading a book and adopting it as faith is something pretty common among humans. An outside perspective isn't likely to make much of an impression. Especially when the words are clearly meant to deride them right out of the gate.
     
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  8. GreatestIam

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    If you do not like a realistic truth, you show how your morals have been corrupted by your belief system.

    I also do not ever say that my religion is the only/correct one, get the quote or be seen as a liar.

    Tell me though, what attitude should I have against those whose same ideology today cause them to use inquisitions in the past and who continue to use a lower key inquisition against women and gays with their homophobic and misogynous religion?

    What would the Jewish attitude be if the S.S. where still around without changing their genocidal ideology against Jews?.

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    DL
     
  9. GreatestIam

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    I care about my fellow man.

    Why are you not trying to end the homophobia and misogyny that Christianity preaches?

    Why are you not living by the Golden Rule?

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  10. inthelibrary

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    matthew 23:12
    jesus words recorded by Matthew

    Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
     
  11. I fail to see why you're singling me out on this issue, unless you're going to use a few words to predict my entire mode of thinking. How would you suggest I end these issues you hold do dearly? Perhaps I can use my magic powers to end world hunger too, my afternoon is free.

    The only impact I can realistically have is to end these issues within myself, which I did long ago. I don't care how people have their orgasms and I'm postive they don't want to know how I have mine, so I don't bother people with it. Haul coal in your ass for all I care. You're free to do so (in America anyway). As for women, I adore them and respect them as I have my whole life. Hanging that line on me is useless.

    Also, the golden rule is not a biblical construct. I don't see how you figure I'm not living by it though. Are you just making shit up for effect?

    The central tenet to Christ's teaching was that people should not take advantage of each other. Unfortunately, that is how nature works and humans revert to nature at their own will, as provided by God. Personally, I do my best to avoid taking advantage of anyone which has doomed me to get no higher than middle management. I simply do not want to work in a shark pit.

    Why do you make such blanket assumptions about people? Particularly such negative conclusions. Seek therapy maybe.
     
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    Jesus exalted himself and was indeed humbled by the Jews who wanted to stone him.

    What was your point again and why are you badmouthing Jesus?

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    how do you figure?
     
  14. GreatestIam

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    Your, ---- "what's it to you" ---- singled me out.

    Is reciprocity not fair play where you live?

    It is where I live.

    As to the impact you can have. Do those who speak to you here have an impact on you?

    It seems I did as it set you off on a rant.

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    DL
     
  15. GreatestIam

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    I read the story and wording as is. Did you?

    If so, why did the Jews want to stone Jesus?

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    DL
     
  16. I'm a writer, that's not a rant, it's barely a paragraph. I could fill pages, quickly. But this subject doesn't merit it. You also didn't answer, you just kept spewing. This is not a conversation or a debate, so it's useless to me here.
     
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  17. GreatestIam

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    I happen to be looing for a local ghost writer.

    If you were local I doubt that I would hire you.

    You wrote more than one paragraph and if that was not a rant, well I guess my standards are not your standards.

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    DL
     
  18. inthelibrary

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    I have. There were many reasons, curing on the sabbath, him and his disciples not washing thier hands, plucking grains, doing miracles and raising the dead. They were scared of him because people were following him and his teachings.
     
  19. GreatestIam

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    John 10 KJV

    33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

    That appears to be the main cause.

    I know that story well because Gnostic Christians were likely murdered by the inquisitors for thinking as Jesus did and following his way.

    I show that way in this presentation of why we call our God I am.

    Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

    You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

    The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

    In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

    That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

    Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

    Regards
    DL
     
  20. Well keep looing, you'll find one. I only ghost write boring speeches for corporate jerks. If you're here, I doubt you fit that mold.
     
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