Windows Bug Holding Back Amd Ryzen

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/microsoft-confirms-windows-bug-is-holding-back-amd-ryzen.html

Many were wondering why AMD's new ryzen chip has incredible single thread performance only to lack that same strength in gaming and the answer appears to be both Windows 10 not recognizing simultaneously multithreading and due to gaming companies having yet to play with the new chip to leverage its advantages better. Hopefully, by the time that the ryzen r5 1600x comes on the market within a few months they'll have most of the issues worked out and we should see more competitive gaming benchmarks. My guess is we should see it produce more comparable benchmarks against the i7 1600x and up which is the sweep spot gamers are looking for. By the end of the year we should know more when both Intel and AMD come out with HBM2 memory and start to dramatically change the architecture of modern computers.

 

I want a Sinclair Vega console .80's 8-bit. 48k RAM. Eight colours. No sprites. Some of the most addictive games ever.

 

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Its amazing what you can do with the simplest graphics with "Bolo" being a favorite of mine. You can move cubes and roll balls and take raft rides downstream and so on, but the mathematics describe multiplexed circuitry and other electronic circuits and its just fun for anyone interested in puzzles, but the double multiplexed nonsense is a bit much and just mental masturbation. What's coming in the near future is AI built into every cpu imaginable that can be quickly trained to do an arbitrary number of repetitive large number crunching tasks faster and easier and flip flop between tasks and introduce serious artificial intelligence into game design. The AI on your computer or phone could recognize a video game and adapt it to play on the specific piece of hardware that you have making the job of programming such things magnitudes easier and using the AI's to design the game layout from the beginning. A meeting of minds you could say, although, IBM's Watson contracted a case of potty mouth.

 

I think you have that a little backwards, it isn't a bug with Windows, it is that Windows and 99% of other software, especially business & enterprise software, are developed around an Intel platform and it's the job of third party developers to make their stuff work and that includes AMD. So it is actually up to AMD to write a patch for their hardware to function and then to make that information available to software developers so they can incorporate it into their own software for compatibility.

surprised you don't understand that process.

 

AMD is not a third party and it is the job of Microsoft to either make their shit work on AMD chips or surrender the gaming market to AMD. Windows 10 has received more criticism than a porcupine with the hickups and this latest revelation is just another fly on the pile of crap that is Windows 10 and a radical departure for microsoft. They require a more scalar design, but that's never been their specialty and making the transition is going to prove the old adage that the second or even third time is almost always the charm with Microsoft software. The problem is MS has most of the research and patents on interfaces and is working towards universal interfaces that utilize eye tracking, mouse, keyboard, touch, and spoken commands in whatever combination you prefer. Eye tracking may not sound all that hot, but is easier to use than a mouse and can feel just as natural if not more so. Microsoft is systematically taking steps in this direction emphasizing different aspects of each new generation for them to tweak in their eventual stab at a universal operating system.

Towards that effort, they have converted to AI as their main focus and now have plans to build a quantum computer as well because a universal operating system is related to quantum security issues in particular which are still poorly understood. Its debatable how universal it could be if it can't provide quantum encryption.

 

Uhmmm,no, it's because as I said, the vast majority of shit is written around an intel platform and AMD has always had to make patches to be compatible.
been that way for the last 25 years I've been messing with computers
AND
contrary to what you may think, shit (software & hardware) is always written with business solutions in mind before gaming because that is where the big $$$$$ are, not gaming.


let me ask you, whenever a software program or hardware device has issues with a certain OS, you think it's the OS developers responsibility to make it work?....LOL
you haven't a clue how the industry works.

 

Its Wintel's job to ensure they retain their proprietary lead in video gaming and encouraging AMD to use a different operating system is not in their best interest considering AMD is in the two top consoles. Already APIs like Vulcan have rewritten the entire landscape and Otoy has come out with a compiler that allows Nvidia cuda code to sometimes run even better on AMD. Microsoft is moving aggressively into gaming, but too aggressively according to quite a few video game developers who, along with considerable Hollywood resources these days, could decide they don't need Wintel anymore and can create their own standard. While Wintel is committed to AI in general and quantum computing, the entertainment industry itself merely requires ray tracing, foveated vision, and whatever works cheapest and easiest to produce a better illusion. Serious AI for business and military applications is not what they require, but a more vision oriented architecture.

To put this into perspective, Stanford demonstrated a small optical chip that runs on three watts, sends a signal six to nine feet on a fiber optic, and runs about a hundred to a thousand times faster than anything currently on the market. That's just one demonstration of experimental chips already in the works which can run up to millions of times faster than anything today. A stupid three watt chip the size of a postage stamp and containing a single cpu core could replace everything in a small server that might cost $10,000.oo and up and the theoretical limit is somewhere around 270 Thz or beyond imagination considering about 24Tbs is enough to run a Star Trek holodeck.

 

uhmmmm, ok, but again, the VAST majority of money is to be made in the business sector, not gaming.
I have personally helped set-up business systems; servers, workstations, etc. that carried a price tag of >$100,000 for one client.
Now multiply that by the number of small to medium sized business that replace equipment every 5 years on average against the $$$ from gaming hardware and that isn't even considering the huge business' with multiple thousands of workstations.
What do you think the percentage breakdown of Intel vs AMD in basic business machines is?
I'm telling you, I've worked in the industry off and on for over 25 years and hands down, shit is written to perform best on an Intel platform, any other hardware platforms are a secondary consideration at best.
Over the last 20 years I have sold, serviced, repaired, retired, replaced, reconfigured, upgraded, installed, etc. literally multiple hundreds of business machines and not a single AMD processor in the lot.
A handful of Apple systems, but only graphic design systems with the Motorola RISC processor. No point in using Apple for business today when it's intel inside running win programs in an emulator.
A few Unix based systems and servers, but not an AMD box in the bunch.

quit daydreaming about what if's and tomorrow's, I'm telling the reality of how the shit is done today and how it has been done for decades and why.
again, you have no clue how the business is actually conducted.

 

Infidel Inside TM.

 

That's what happened to IBM and happens to all the high big tech companies all the time because their real business plan is to always move on to bigger and better things than mass producing chips or whatever. In fact, they all have a regular business cycle they plan over decades for when to get out of one business and into the next with everybody now rushing into AI and quantum computing as fast as they can and finally exposing their long term plans. IBM has still been making money off its server chips, but they are the most patent happy of the entire bunch and have been dedicating themselves to research for some time now. Like Intel and MS, they have the bank account to do incredible research for decades on end if necessary that could change everything overnight. These days, its all accountants driving the entire industry including what research to invest in next and what patent rights to grant to other companies. Its like their fucking stamp collectors or something and could not care less about the actual technology itself. People who invest up to 20 billion dollars on a single plant want reassurance.