Will we impeach him this time?

That would be two communists and a socialist

 

But why cant you say what the money was for though?

Military aid; anti tank missiles, cyberwarfare

 

By the way, another $1/4 billion for these things is upcoming, as well as anti mortar radar, night vision goggles


Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine

 

This is irrelevant though. I mean it isnt irrelevant in the grand scheme of the US and I could give you an earful on my thoughts on US foreign policy in another thread.
But it is irrelevant to what Trump did. He didnt hold the aid because he had some sort of moral objection to it. He withheld it out of blatant self interest, because he wanted to enlist the help of a foreign entity to help him win the election

 

Well not 63 million. Trump voters were super old. We know that he has some bizare cult hold over your party. Apparently you guys think he's better than Lincoln?

We just value facts above feelings (and vague threats.) Facts are that he withheld aid on the condition that his political rival be investigated (bribery) and used the power of the state to withhold evidence from congress (obstruction of justice).

He'll be impeached, not removed from office, and crushed by any candidate. Your boys a criminal loser.

 

It might be relevant if it wasn't for military or domestic defense of Ukraine. Like the money was for avocado toast for Ukraine?

But it wasn't. Military aid, which could have cost lives.

 

VG once again posts and reveals his ignorance, I would think any rational person would have learnt by now after been burnt so many times, but hey he’s already admitted he doesn’t think or research before he comments.

If anything these were popularists - like Trump - they corrupted the systems they lived in for their own self-interests – like Trump.

The thing is why do his supporters so love Trump how cut off from reality must these people be?

 

Lolz, "popularists" now, so you dont have to admit they were communists and socialists

Socialism being Communsim lite

 

You act like communism is the only economic system that can spawn authoritarian leaders.
Communism makes it easy because it's a system that so wholly takes over the way of life in communist countries.
But authoritarianism certainly existed before communism and will exist after

And authoritarianism is exactly what will be prevented in the US by pursuing impeachment.

 

VG

LOL ok let’s see you think, let’s see if you can put a rational and coherant argument together – what’s your point?

A trump supporter says they are passionate about trump love Trump and I say that is what many supporters of dictators felt. That it is not a good thing to love a political leader.

Again I say remember the last line of 1984 when you know everything has been lost when Winston Smith declares his love for Big Brother

Now what is your point?

 

Plus Hitler wasnt a bad, evil leader because of his economic policies. He was evil because he was an authoritarian.
If he had ran the German government and economy the same way but without the tribalism and authoritarianism and, you know, the genocide, Germany would have been a totally different country. Economically they were doing alright under Hitler
But it was the fact that so many Germans felt such a passion about Hitler and allowed him to do whatever he wanted with no restraint that was the undoing of Germany. Not their econonic system

 

264 > 63

 

MeAgain

But that is it - that is what those controlling or leading the right seems to want to promote and rely on – it promotes simplistic viewpoints and relies on people been wilfully ignorant enough to accept them.

At the same time they tell these people that they are clever to reject knowledge and prudent to dismiss inconvenient facts they just need to have passion, and belief and faith – reality is what they are told it is meant to be, not what it is.

Is it surprising that many on the right these days seem more like brainwashed cult member than citizens in a democracy.

 

If we could just get rid of him and his crime family, as well as Moscow Mitch, America would be great again. .

 

Yeah, pretty much

 

Yes, because of massive government funded work programs: Socialism

 

I will let Meliai explain to you what sarcasm is