Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?

In all fairness [and not responding to the post above by psy/puff/morphgirl (and maybe they're not the same person but they have the same brain\syntax...also, maybe if a mod could tell me how to block someone because I can't find the option) ]

Anyways

I dont particularly like the online uncivil discourse between liberals and conservatives that liberals are all libtards/have a mental disorder/special snowflakes and conservatives are all anti-intellectuals and anti-science ..in my real waking life I find that I actually know some intelligent Trump voters and they are generally respectful of me as a bleeding heart liberal or whatever stupid label one can invent.

And as frustrating as it is that we are all voting for people who seemingly oppose the other's value, we all essentially seem to hold the same values

Because the truth is if you are middle to lower class you likely want the same thing as me in life, regardless of who you think your actual enemy is or what you think of my politics

We have all been duped into hating each other, while both democrats and republicans pass bills that screw us ALL

But the thing is, what I have found is that Republicans will screw the working/middle class over 90% of the time, while the Democrats will generally vote against my values may be 30% of the time. So generally speaking I do align myself with Democrats more

So it is all a matter of supporting those who support your values, but I just wonder are you actually supporting those who support or oppose your values?

And if your values DO actually include any anti-science/anti-intellectualism traits then you can go to hell because you directly oppose the values I hold dear.

But in general, I do believe we should find common ground and I believe there is plenty of common ground, despite common political discourse!

 

I think you just proved his statement is correct

Also why are you liking your own posts?

 

I have also met some intelligent supporters of his. And it upsets me so much to have mental handicaps made fun of with the word "libtard". But I suppose that would be the point since I am a "snow flake" which is proved because a word upsets me. I'm not even a liberal but I suppose if I had to pick I would agree with them more.

The thing is the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You never see the smart ones and they never speak up. The news plays up the angry ones because it divides the people. The amount of times I have heard that they "hate liberals" and they are "fascists" is very high. They have no idea what that word means. They forget we are all American. But that is the key to Trump's power. He is the messiah here to save you from the liberal. If the average Republican believed there was any common ground the man would already be impeached. But instead it's a war zone out there and all bets are off. It might as well be the Nazis out there wearing the blue ties. I still feel they are the minority however because facts are just not respected in the party anymore. Democrats are no better I admit.

 

Oh boo hoo Psymon. Someone on HF called you mean words and now you play the victim card. So what? You sound just like the bleeding heart cucks you're going on and on against. Hipforums isn't a safe space. Expect your ideas to get challenged, and expect others to get offended by your ideas.

 

Really? I can't imagine it's Morph (I really miss her though, she brought some well needed character to this place). But really, at this point HOW many people on here have been accused of being Morph? I myself have been accused of being Morphgirl at one point. Are there any others?

 

I agree you deserve a certain level of respect even if people don't agree with you. To use hurtful words and imply you are not mentally sound to make the points you do makes one no better than the people who say "cucked". I hope that even if I REALLY don't agree with you that I debate in a more civil way. :mickey:

 

Lol that's funny

I only accuse based on syntax and writing style...not really concerned with the ideas but when I see the same ideas expressed with the exact same verbiage and followed with the same logic (illogic) it does raise some eyebrows. What can I say ? If you wanna create a new character try to be unique at least!

 

There is a difference between name calling and disagreeing with people. Did you skim my post like that professor claims republicans do? Don't give republicans a bad name. Wait, are you a republican? I said " I don't care what those individuals say." They lose credibility with me once the personal attacks begin, what they say falls on deaf ears through their expressed disdain. You too are verging on it.

I agree the smart ones do not speak up, and by not speaking up they get lumped in with the expressed hatred towards the supposed gentrified. I have never heard trump called the messiah, never! He is just a man with a position that can be used for good or bad. It has yet to be seen. Obama was definitely called messiah. I can show you news articles and videos where he is called that. No one I know thinks of any president, repub or demo as a god who can do no wrong. Every single one brings in policies that don't work.,

Trump is crucified without being given a chance. He has no funds until, the end of September, this is when the fiscal year ends and he gets a budget. Obama spent it all before leaving office.

I really can not say what will happen, but when or if trump does something that is not working I will definitely stand up against it. Me, as an individual. We all have personal reasons for supporting or not supporting somethng or someone. If he removes programs that obama set up which benefit people based on skin color I will support it. If he returns education to the hands of the state rather than at a federal level I will also support that. I do not consider myself democrat or republican. I consider myself a little of both. I voted republican because I could not vote for Hilary. She is corrupt!

As for fascists. Antifa, who attend alll those democrat marches are fascists BLM are also fascists and nazi, racist.. Their website mirrors mijn kempf. Women's march, a group that the clintons supported and funded, one leader is for sharia law and fm. Many voted for trump because Hilary, the clintons are corrupt. Obama brought about division which is viewed as racism, when it is not racism, through his policies which gave to one and denied another based on skin color.

The quote that meagain posted from that professor, a man I do not feel should be teaching anyone, was one of many perfect examples of the left promoting hatred for the right, His credentials, or supposed experience does not change the fact that he spreads the word, meagain spreads the word that republicans, trump supporters are "his supporters are threaded by what they don't understand - they reject vast subjects rooted in facts. - the skin articles for things that make them feel better about themselves. - knowledge is not a usefultools to them , but is a barrier for the elite to keep power from the average man and woman" he says

That man obviously considers himself the elite!

What is understood by this is, the message being shared with democrats is, if you do not see it as we Do, then you are stupid, an elitist, depressed, You are uneducated, you do not listen to what I say and you question it, which you are not to do. This puts people on the defensive, which is what it is designed to do. It is designed to divide not unite. Does he expect people to listen to him when he insults people? It is not republicans who brought about the division. It is people like that professor, Obama, the Clintons who have funded, encouraged, promoted the division you see happening today.

It also makes people, democrats and republicans want to lean as far away from this as possible, especially when women, people of color, democrats/liberals do not stand up against those who are leading these groups to say this is not what we or I am about as an American. Those who do speak out within those organization are called names, bullied, harassed. It also has the opposit effect on people with weak minds who do not want to be thought of siding with or fear siding with people who are called racist, stupid or many other names.

It is used to divide and it is done on this forum a lot.

 

From what I've seen so far, there is nothing good about Trump. This is not a normal presidency. He's a disgrace to the office of President and the human race. Therefore, people who continue to support him are understandably perceived as uninformed or worse. Hillary's statement that half of his supporters were a "basket of deplorables" was a politically incorrect exaggeration and got her into trouble, but she wasn't completely off. As I see it from the vantage point of a Red state, Trump supporters seem to fall into several baskets: The deplorables, like “HanAssholeSolo” who messaged into Reddit recently praising the "Maga Emperor" (Trump), who supposedly got the idea for his tweet body slamming CNN from him, and calling the 500 thousand dead Muslims "a good start"; the displaced miners and factory workers hoping Trump will bring back the mines and factories like the Native American Ghost Dancers hoped they would bring back the buffalo; the wealthy and the investor class hoping for another tax break; the traditional Republicans conditioned to getting in line behind the Party's candidate; the folks who get their worldview from the "real news media like FOX, Brietbart, and InfoWars; the Hillary/Obama haters who thought anything would be better than her; and the twenty-two friends I just returned from a Fourth of July celebration with,, Trump supporters one and all, who, one by one, expressed their dismay that those awful liberals were balking at our duly elected President. Those people think of themselves as the true patriots, and they're good people, but a demagogue like Trump can play them like rubes. The professor you complain about obviously does consider himself an elite--not in the sense that Trump and his fellow gazilionaires are, but because he is much better informed and educated than most of us. Trump continues to fan the flames of division with his daily tweets, as Fox and Breitbart continue to do with their daily fake news broadcasts. The resistance is on, and patriots are resisters, too! So don't expect unilateral disarmament or unconditional surrender. The survival of the country and American democracy is at stake on this Independence Day!

 

When was the last "normal presidency"? Before Trump we had a mysterious rookie who "decided" to run for the top office after serving only 140 or so days in Washington. And he did it by pulling the race card on the Clintons of all people. Since Reagan we have only seen dynastic political families running the country. For me the choice was easy this last time around, anyone BUT the Clintons. Too bad they sandbagged Bernie, but that's not a shocker when dealing with the Clintons.

Trump was a serious wildcard and like most I figured he was just trying to make a statement, like Perot. But his strategy was very effective. He infiltrated the GOP because they have thrown the towel so many times most notably rolling out McCain to face Obama and then Romney who vanished on election week instead of campaigning (kinda like Hillary). And that was the real democratic failure, assuming that it was Hillary's "turn" to be president. No amount of rigged polls or riots can hide the truth for very long. Like Alinsky tactics, those measures have a very short shelf life.

It's like using the "Broken Record" assertiveness tactic over and over for the same issue. Eventually you just look like a kook. Same as trying to present an opinion about Trump as if everybody is on the same page. Clearly they are not. But the leftist media keeps shoveling it out as do all the sour grapes voters. But by all means keep calling the winning side "stupid" or what have you. Not that it works, but I can see how calling a billionaire "dumb" can make some kinds of people feel better about themselves. As they crank out their frustrations on a 4 year old computer after fetching a Moe's homewrecker in their 10 year old car.

So far I have seen no discussions about the most important aspect of the near future, the midterm elections. It's the one event where Trump could be rendered into a single term failure. Instead what do we hear? Loony Maxine spewing on and on about impeachment, a tactic that accomplishes nothing. And throngs of bloggers who feel qualified to rest their future on Trump's "stupidity". Again, with nothing being expressed on how to defeat his agenda in less than 2 years hence.

It's like watching Hillary hide from press conferences and campaigning, all over again. Why? Because she took it for granted that she'd win, it was preposterous to think otherwise. Even Bill tried to get her off her haunches with no success. But it's ok folks, cause "Trump's stupid". Good luck with that.

 

I think what makes this presidency so different from most is the fact that this is the first president we've had who doesnt behave like a mature adult.

 

Indeed, like all those other people in Washington. And the press. And the social media outlets. Funny stuff, they're all just brimming with professionalism and integrity these days.

 

Well anybody can start a social media outlet. Not everyone can become... oh wait.

 

Why are you comparing the position of president with people on social media?

I was comparing Trump to other presidents specifically, and while I may not like the policies of past presidents at least they behaved professionally and handled their position with a certain level of dignity and decorum

I know some Americans like Trump because hey, he's just like them! He mocks disabled people and flames people online and his speech is incoherent. I know some people actually value this but I just think its embarrassing.

 

Oh please, you know the loudest whining these days is over Trump's twitter rants. A medium I fail to understand his affection for since it's so packed to the gills with shiners and malcontents looking for an "edge" over everyone else so they can claim trending cred.

As for the rest, y-A-wn, you spew talking points from last year when social media was hanging on Trump's every word. Personally, I have no idea what Trump has tweeted in the last week. Why would I care? The man is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how stupid it sounds.

The Americans who like Trump seem more to like him because he made the rest of the Washington elites look like what they are, arrogant politicians who only serve the trendy and fashionable parts of the American population. Except Hillary of course, didn't you just LOVE the way she pulled a "Southern" accent out like pure magic?

It's all part of the show folks.

 

I didn't support Hillary so the ol' "but, but, but Hillary! " doesn't work on me.

I agree it is all a show. Trump's a showman. Everything down to the fake war on the press is just for show - Trump doesn't hate the media, he thrives on the negative attention.

But back to the topic at hand, a lot of people have been duped into believing the promises of this conman

 

Same as the con man before him.

 

Trump is an evil genius who has MSM reporters jumping through hoops. And they don't even realize how hard he's deliberately trolling them.

It's actually quite entertaining.

 

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