Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?

I'm just stealing a page from the Balbus playbook. You've avoided if not failed to address my statements as well. Churchy republicans vs churchy christians for example.

But if you want me to go that route, I will.

Of course you did. Because Christian societies and nations that burn witches no longer exist. So you try to find an easy way out by providing examples of militias. LOL

Such as...?

Nope. Not all Muslims. Never said that.

Just 1/3 of them

In your home land no less

And 2/3 of that same group said they won't even report the warnings of a potential terrorist attack either.

 

I'm not hiding behind Attilla the Liberal. He just happens to share the same opinion as I do with Islam. I figured since I'm a heartless libertarian, maybe you'd be more apt to acknowledge what a fellow liberal may have to say about it.

But it seems to me, that since people like you and MeAgain will defend a religion like Islam and the barbaric anti-liberal traditions that many of its followers still hold onto. Then I'm more of a progressive liberal than both of you combined.

 

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[SIZE=12pt]This is what I was trying to express earlier about some people been unable to debate honestly [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]This is a complete perversion and distortion of my argument – if you were in school and this was a test - you flunked it.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]So I’ll give you another chance to read what has been said and explain your thinking using quote where appropriate and see if you can do better second time around.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Good luck, your time begins….now.[/SIZE]

 

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[SIZE=12pt]LOL what the fuck are you on about – if people what to go look at the posts above, I’m happy for them to do so they only need to read to see your lies.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]I do not HATE Churchy republicans as you asked and I think I made it clear that I don’t – as I said, they may be misinformed and/or prone to not questioning too much their own ideas, but do I HATE them as you asked, no. [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]Oh my poor six - As such what?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Honestly I would wish you could put together a decent question. [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12pt]Yeah of course you could speak for yourself it’s just.. you know….well….anyway…..[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Anyway you really need to read the posts but then again I think you do you are just been a dishonest debater.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Anyway I ask again - what are your solutions? [/SIZE]

 

But only then

And... I don't see them defending barbaric anti-liberal traditions. I see them criticizing and countering unnuanced statements, which you in return portray as mollycoddling and/or pandering to this horrible organized religion and its followers that no one with a right mind should be defending. But islam (as most othergroups, religions and ideologies ) is multifaceted, and this most certainly also counts for its followers...

I just watched Wilders rambling in Vienna awhile ago where he declares the west is at war with islam (not fundamentalist islam or extremists, no: islam as a whole). It's stuff like this why a lot of our fellow westerners, a-religious and not eager to live in any religion dominated nation, are still gonna counter unnuanced bullshit that makes it sound islam is a threat to the world in ANY form, not just the extremist fundamentalistic forms or under sharia law. This is probably because they realize big groups of people or a nation can also be hate (or fear) dominated and fundamentally retarded without being islamic or subject to another organized religion.

 

Puff, I'm pretty sure witches and gays have no life in a country like Uganda for a large part because of christians. It's factual. Easy to verify
But does that really matter in regards to this thread. What's the point in making this discussion about a competition which organized religion oppresses the most people? If islam is worse would that mean much to a gay in Uganda who's life is made impossible by some retarded christians Or in regards to this thread topic? If its all about a statement from Balbus that all christians are something specific like rightwing... i think you're going at it in a fruitless way as well. Besides that most regulars as well as any reader of this thread knows he didn't ment it like you put it...so not just fruitless, its also pointless

 

Where am I lying? When I said several posts ago:

"If you took a deep look at how advocates for Sharia Law treat women, homosexuals, and atheists. You'd find that you have more in common with those churchy republicans you hate so much than you do with people like Linda Sarsour."

You said:

Which you totally avoided my statement about churchy republicans. Yes these churchy republicans are mostly (if not entirely) christian, but I'm not calling all Christians republican. And yes, while christianity has it's regressive traditions that are better left behind. Islam lags even further behind.

Seriously? Did you not read your quoted statement above what I posted? You can't expect me to believe you're THAT simple...

In your own words you said:

The question still remains. Such as which countries? A guerrilla militia does not count as a country but nice try.

The western world can curb the Muslim problem by putting an end to mass Islamic immigration. Along with stopping forceful wars and interventionism with middle eastern nations. Stop meddling with their governments and propping up dictators just to tear them down. Etc.

 

The way I've always seen it is that conservative people value traditions much more than liberals. Sometimes it can include the traditions that are inhibiting society from advancing forward. Needless to say I find this to be a negative trait about many conservatives. People who value religion are often very traditional people as well.

The Christians who are still bitching today about gay marriage are those people who are trying to conserve a tradition and a belief that is inhibiting society from advancement. Likewise the Muslims who are advocating Sharia Law are the conservatives who are holding onto a very barbaric tradition that is inhibiting their societies from advancement. Whereas it is a liberal idea to break free from traditions that are holding society back.

So, if you and Balbus are in fact defending the Muslims who wish to hold true to their outdated traditions as the UN imports more of these people with regressive ideologies into liberated western nations, and I'm calling against it. Then that would make me more of a progressive liberal than both of you.

 

moonglow

I was being facetious, channelling Ripley in Aliens.

But really have you seen the level of what is called debate on the right of politics in America today – on the one hand you have people that would defend Trump even if he took a shit on the floor of the Senate then wiped his arse with the original US constitution and on the other you have those with a view of the world that is so simplistic that if they were children you would have kindergarten teachers patting them on the head and calling them ‘special’ while sending worried letters to the parents. (I mean LOL just look above)

I’m sure I’m not the only one in this world looking on at the American rights dishonestly and ill-inform but gleeful ignorance and despairing.

 

Some may seem simplistic, but for example, Isaac Asimov never pontificated, but he was a genius, now wasn't he?... ....but lol, to your taking a shit and all of that. I hear you......It is a blind following.

 

Now we've shot down a Syrian warplane, pissing off Russia. And Otto Warmbier has died, further escalating tensions with North Korea.

To clarify, I'm upset with Syria and North Korea for their actions. Still, a peacetime Trump is bad enough, are we going to get a wartime Trump? And is war what it will take for Trump supporters to wake up, or is war what they want?

 

That crazy little bastard in NK is going to have his war, sooner or later. It has to be his mission- look at how he treats his own people, they just get by, barely while his military struts around and firing missiles.
Yes I'm talking about Kim-Jong Goon.

Maybe some would be happier if we accepted NK refugees too, and made friends with NK while he builds up his arsenal...maybe with our money!! Sound Familiar? You bet it does, that's what Obama did with Iran.
That's what happens when you have a radical dem. in office. And our Republican house members sitting on their hands not supporting Trump, there's some homemade Liberty for ya.

A guy leaves office after ten trillion more in debt, plus interest, and ignored American Soldiers in Benghazi (oh yeah, that pile under the rug is kinda big, no!) and people are screaming at what Trump MIGHT do? HAHAHA

 

Get real scratchy. If George Carlin were still around he'd be tearing Trump a new one daily. As for North Korean refugees, we have taken some in, but not so many as it's so difficult to escape from that prison country. And the Republicans support Trump too damn much, putting party above country. If you don't think Trump is a gawdawful president then you're not paying attention.

 

What am I not paying attention to? The first week in office the man straightened up past-Obama fuck-ups like a happy whore in a gang bang party.
I was being sarcastic about taking NK refugees...

So tell me, what pray tell am I not paying attention to? The Republicans do not support Trump as they should, because he's an outsider. I figured you knew that, and found it funny. You aren't paying attention!

The media? Gawddam right I don't listen to them, our media is as lopsided as Michelle Obama's undies...bulge and all.

You really believe that mass crock of shit that those Hillary lickers throw at our population on a daily basis?

Michael Flynn got ran out of office on hot rails for holding a "HI, nice to meet you" conversation toward a Russian.

But Hillary Rodham Clinton can sell Uranium to the Russians like she did a few years ago and no one in the media bats an eye. So now, is there media bias?

If our Elected Officials truly care as much about the citizens who elected them, as the country they are supposed to be representing, they'd better get off the toilet and co-operate with President Donald Trump and help him finish draining the swamp. or they might become part of the swamp. 2018 is not far away...some of them may not be back.

As for George Carlin, he was a comedian. I have no say over what message someone chooses to convey with his persona. But it was on the mark.

 

^^ I gotta print this and show it to my best friend...he's gonna love this. You might get a new member!

Knew I could count on a "busterama" from you, Me lol

 

Puff

Not a film buff them LOL

“channelling Ripley in Aliens.”

You see it’s about warning not been taken which I thought was apt for this thread

In the film Ripley is trying to warn ‘the company’ about the aliens but they don’t believe her and she comes out with the line ‘Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away’ or some such.

The moral is that they should have listened to her but didn’t and it all ends with a big nuclear explosion – I truly hope the present situation does do the same.