Will the successful stick around to be soaked?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RIPTIDE59, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    ...or site traffic builders? ;)
     
  2. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    Whatever BS you PC types want to process is your business. Fact is islamic terror IS growing by leaps and bounds. Check out Pam Geller's sites and observations. Need more? Nicolai Sennels exposes 1400 yrs of islamic inbreeding as supportive evidence. Re. socialism ; just the fact that people can not log into a gubmint sponsered health insurance web site should tell you enough. WTF?
     
  3. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Can you answer my questions? They are simple enough. Naming some person and telling me to find her website is not an answer. I don't want her observations, I'm looking for yours.

    Here they are again, in case you forgot:

    Why do you think that the world is becoming more collectivist? Are you talking in terms of corporate globalization?

    What evidence do you have of the West becoming 'islamofied'? I would appreciate it if you provided me with some sort of statistical data or evidence that shows this, or if you at least provide me with your rational for making this statement.
     
  4. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Just what is it you are focusing on in the 'big' picture? I see an enormous number of issues, many interrelated, which as individuals we seem to prioritize different from one another, and politicians use these various issues to gain support from various groups of people to win elections, seldom if ever acquiring a mandate from a majority of the people on ANY one issue.

    The puppets are the only ones we are given a choice of to elect and empower over us.


    It is a question in response to what you claimed without proof.

    Then you are satisfied with continuing to choose what can only be defined as the lessor of two evils to run our government, FUCKING us gradually rather than quickly?

    I didn't say that at all.

    I focus on the Dems when they are in power destroying the country, and the Reps when they are in power destroying the country.

    What disinformation are you referring to?

    Are you now accusing me of something malicious? Take note, that I do not have anything to do with the running of this site.

    Referring to your comment where I have boldened the text, who is it you would like to see run for and be elected President? Someone who would be able to entice those who are most successful to stick around and be soaked.
     
  5. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    OK . Mr. sprog. Since ramadon , nearly 3000 dead from terror. Pam Geller , once again has been running a daily tracker. And, regarding obamunism ; well , logged in yet?
    OOPS , forgot , you're not a citizen.
     
  6. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    I'm going to ask you for a third time, because you have not actually answered either question. Where were those 3000 people dead? Who were they? What significance does that have? Since which ramadon? (it happens every year).

    The questions, in case you forgot, are:

    Why do you think that the world is becoming more collectivist? Are you talking in terms of corporate globalization?

    What evidence do you have of the West becoming 'islamofied'? I would appreciate it if you provided me with some sort of statistical data or evidence that shows this, or if you at least provide me with your rational for making this statement.




    If you can't answer these clearly, then you are clearly just here to troll and ruin otherwise interesting conversations. So go on, prove me wrong and answer them.
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I'm not even asking for statistical data, just mainly to explain his thoughts. As he has such a strong opinion he should be able to explain WHY HE THINKS his opinions or how he got them. Not by giving one statement like 'because this or that event' or 'because so many deaths here or there' but by explaining the connection between those happenings and his opinion.

    Other people are doing it all the time, since they care to make their convictions and how they got them understandable for the people they're discussing with. So please, Riptide, pay us (and the conversation) the same respect and simply elaborate on your opinion and how you connect it with the things you repeatedly have said but not explained.
     
  8. Tyrsonswood

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    Faux News
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    ...would be an incomplete answer. :daisy:
     
  10. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    Go check the afore mentioned sites. That's all I can say. This years ramadon-bomb-a-thon was more intense than ever. Don't make light of it. You canadiens are also in the islamic crosshairs. Why don't YOU do your homework and check out the recent arrest of mo kasari University of Sask. student with some interesting "friends". What about the NY to Toronto bomber ? You folks are right there , sir. You are not immune from islamo terror.
     
  11. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    asmodean , I'm not doing your homework for you. I have offered the tools ; the rest is your decision. Again , go to my recommended sites. Thank-You and other left wing zealots for your interest.
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You seem to misread my post. I am not asking for the events or other peoples opinions that have helped you come to your conclusions. I am asking to explain why those opinions of other people and certain events have caused you to reach such conclusions.
    In short, I (and others) are simply asking to explain why you think what you do.

    We can read the same articles about certain happenings or books from other people and still get different things out of it.
    It's a fair and normal question in a conversation where someone says the same opinions and conclusions again and again to ask why and how you think that. Not by simply posting other peoples opinions or news articles but the link between those and your conclusion.
    So, it's not about tools or homework. It's about what's in our heads. You only share your conclusion but not sincerely elaborate most of the time on how you get there (giving links of other peoples conclusions or books of them where they might explain how THEY got THEIRS is not explaining YOUR opinion). Hope I made myself clear and make some sense. I'm really asking for a basic thing in a conversation I think.
     
  13. eggsprog

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    The question was not about 'islamo terror', it was about 'islamo socialism' - a term that you have still not actually explained to me. So seriously, what is it, and why do you believe that it exists and is a threat?

    Also, why do you believe that the world is becoming more collectivist, and why do you believe that is a negative thing?

    I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying to figure out what you're actually talking about.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Same here :2thumbsup: We only seem to get into arguing about the same statements and conclusions when we don't understand eachother or explain ourselves. So please explain what you think and ask what you want to know. For the sake of the conversation.
     
  15. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    Sometimes , you two guys are clear as mud. Primarily, I have presented many of the facts that my opines are derived from. Regarding "islamo socialism" ; sharia is devoid of morality ; hence revenue sharing will occur.

    Eggsprog ; global socialism is malignant. Where can we find Liberty /Free Markets? Given obamunism , the US is in decay. Perhaps Belize? Monaco? Suisse? Where can Free Markets survive?
     
  16. Gongshaman

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    They can't, free markets are a fantasy of the greedy.
     
  17. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

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    Why do you say that? Need a bailout?

    class envy=revenue sharing.
     
  18. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Why would I envy a class-less fuck like you?
     
  19. Mellow Yellow

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    The rich will stick around, because they continue to soak us, they thrive on us, to some extent in the name of the Tea Party (in which I agree with in ideology, but in practice, I don't). The federal government is in such trouble because they've effectively given away the public infrastructure (which we paid for) to private interests, like the Koch brothers, who have spear headed the Tea Party movement, and now we need to pay it back, public risk, private profit, business as usual. Maybe they'll drain it till it's dry, in which case, they'll move on, but I don't think it's dry yet, and I don't think they'll quit if America runs dry, it's an international ball game these days.

    America won't run dry because there's too many resources, too many people, too much talent

    I'll stick around. I'm not rich, but I'm not dependent on anyone.

    Libertarian Ideals, as they are pitched, as I see it, are excuses for the Koch brothers to run the government in such a way as to increase their profits, which is exactly the opposite of what they try to represent. We paid for it and now they are stealing it from us, in the name of "fiscal responsibility".

    The bigger the pig, the more the pork. We are huge.

    I don't know what to do about government. It's too big here in America. We need to take away most of the power from Obama, and give it to the states.
     
  20. scratcho

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    I wouldn't worry about Obama much. They come and they go---but the rest of what you said is right on. There have been political/banking crises- events for a couple of centuries and it always comes back to the unbridled greed of the super rich, that then leads to the detriment of society as a whole. Like now.
     

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