Will Humans Ever Achieve Time Travel?

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

NookaTheNook said: ↑

Of course, it is our past and our future, not up to us when though

As humans will we ever achieve time travel?
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yep

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

zer0 said: ↑

Exactly… that’s what I mean by citing the Fermi Paradox. If time travel were possible, then by now someone (many) would have gone into the past and meddled. Even accidental meddling would prove catastrophic. See Star Trek: “City on the Edge of Forever” where saving 1 life in 1940 results in the annihilation of the human race in the 23rd century. I would even say if you were to move an object 1” to the left, it could have enormous, unpredictable results in the future.

I think the movie Back to the Future dumbed us down The truth is that time is like the flow of a stream. Divert it any tiny amount at the source, and there’s no telling how many square miles of land will be flooded or dried up further down.

Now imagine everyone hopping around in their own time travel machines (which would be inevitable because someone could stand to get rich manufacturing them). Now we’d have ‘time tourists’ wanting to go back and gawk at every historical moment. Or we’d have ‘time soldiers’ à la Terminator, realising the easiest way to win a war is to go back in time and kill the pregnant mother of the enemy leader. The chaos would lead to complete annihilation, even with the best intentions. Bottom line: humans screw everything up. It’s a damn good thing nobody ever invented (or will invent) the time machine or we’d be already cooked.
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Liked, "humans screw things up". Which includes all those elitists out there

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

zer0 said: ↑

Campy scifi fans may take an anthropocentric view to extraterrestrial life (how many times does Kirk beam down to a jungle planet and say “no signs of life here”), but the Fermi Paradox doesn’t specify that extraterrestrial life has two arms & two legs. Any signs of life would contradict it.

Imagine the universe is an acre of dirt. If life were meant to thrive, then you’d eventually find bacteria, mold, single cell organisms, multi-cell, vegetation, aquatic, amphibian and ultimately complex life forms inhabiting it. Give it enough time and it would be teeming with life on every inch. Again I stress if the universe has existed FOREVER, then the question of life comes down to the infinite monkey theorem (statistically, a monkey smacking a typewriter for an infinite amount of time will eventually type the works of Shakespeare). But rather than seeing any forms of life or any evidence of past habitation, anthropic or otherwise, the universe is barren as far as we can see.

Life is strong. I’m not just talking about human life but I’m talking about everything down to bacteria and viruses and mold. Give it time and life will spread everywhere on earth, agreed? So Fermi simply points out: we have given the universe an eternity of time, but life hasn’t spread.

I fully believe in the scientifically accepted solution: any growth or civilisation that advances to the point of interstellar travel will absolutely destroy itself first. We can’t even reach Mars and yet we’re on the verge of blowing the shit out of our planet and everything on it.
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Thats some good weed!

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

zer0 said: ↑

Now THAT I can get behind! And it's scientifically feasible (if not already proven)... the way we can look at stars billions of light years away and watch their past, even though in absolute-time they burned out long ago.

If we could somehow chase old light waves that emanated from our own planet, like I dunno, somehow planting a telescope 1000 light years away looking back at us, then we would absolutely be able to watch our own history unfold. Without the catastrophic risk of changing anything. Dude that idea is genius, I think you should email NASA right away, or at least set to writing a screenplay asap
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Dang! Roll another one, this is good!

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

Dunnaknockit said: ↑

There is one major flaw with the Fermi Paradox - it is a theory created by humans.

If you imagine that our Solar system is a tiny little speck in just one tiny corner of one of countless billions of galaxies and how little we understand of anything outside our Solar system. Yes, we may be beginning to understand the physical nature of the universe but we know absolutely nothing of its anthropological development other than our own experience of life as we know it. The possibilities for life outside our own little corner of the Milky Way are as numerous as the stars and galaxies themselves.

I love the way that humans, as a species, are sufficiently arrogant, given the galactic backwater we come from, to make two massive assumptions. Firstly, that all life in the Universe must follow the same pattern as that on Earth and secondly, that, given the still primitive nature of this planet and its inhabitants, anybody in the wider Galaxy and Universe would want anything to do with us.

Just because we don't see something doesn't mean it's not there.
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Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

I follow your gist however a couple contradictions and assumptions come into play with your statement.
1. galactic backwater we come from,
2. that all life in the Universe must follow the same pattern as that on Earth.
3. the still primitive nature of this planet and its inhabitants.

Just curious about what ET makes the assumptions about our humanity? How do they know that we are galactic backwater?
How do they compare life on earth to their own species and sister planets of the great Federation of Space? AND how do they know we are so primitive? Truly that is amazing! Sounds smart too!

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

Dude111 said: ↑

For some reason I dont think somene would admit it because they may be scared of what they might do to them... (Govt)

Ya gotta be careful now!
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A Time Travel Machine! I want one!

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

zer0 said: ↑

True, the accepted "solution" is pure opinion based the observations of ourselves. But then what other explanation can you offer? Remember, we're talking about eternity. In scientific terms that means every possibility has happened; life has been given every opportunity to reach its greatest potential. Why don't we see a universe filled with life, as fertile as the Amazon jungle?
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*sssuck* yeah man! totally copastetic dude! This weed is good! Id swear we are chatting about time travel

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

NookaTheNook said: ↑

Of course, it is our past and our future, not up to us when though

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So if its Wednesday at 10 o`clock pm where Im at and its Thursday at 6 o`clock am somewhere else......isnt that time travel?

skip · Jan 16, 2023

WE ARE THE TIME TRAVELERS!

We travel thru time during our lives, we experience it.
That is our lot.

A bigger question is what happens when we stop our time travel?
Where do we go?

Are our muons (consciousness?) released to be pulled into the nearest black hole, where we can no longer experience this reality?

It is the eternal mystery.

And yes, just had a toke of OG Cookies.

Kneeler · Jan 16, 2023

now THAT is a good question! *as I hit my blunt*

goldendragon · Jul 12, 2023

NookaTheNook said: ↑

Of course, it is our past and our future, not up to us when though

As humans will we ever achieve time travel?
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I wouldn't be sure its not possible already. If you can create worm holes and move millions of miles much much faster than normal frfitom one point to another it would be the equivalent of time traveling. Another thing, some of the most distant stars we might actually being seeing their past due to the time it takes for that light to reach us. Im sure everything the human brain can imagine is possible in one way or another.

maelstromaz · Sep 2, 2023

Seems unlikely that humans could survive the process. If it is possible, someone will spend as much time as it takes to get it to work. Using a pebble at first.

HelloWisconsin · Nov 11, 2023

zer0 said: ↑

Now THAT I can get behind! And it's scientifically feasible (if not already proven)... the way we can look at stars billions of light years away and watch their past, even though in absolute-time they burned out long ago.

If we could somehow chase old light waves that emanated from our own planet, like I dunno, somehow planting a telescope 1000 light years away looking back at us, then we would absolutely be able to watch our own history unfold. Without the catastrophic risk of changing anything. Dude that idea is genius, I think you should email NASA right away, or at least set to writing a screenplay asap
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I think that would reqire us to exceed the speed of light, which is probably impossible, since photons don't interact with the Higg's field and therefore are the fastest possible particle.

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