Everything is not always what is seems, but I agree it didn't sound that way. That's true. Well, buy it or not, it's true and he began working for McDonalds while he was in high school, saving for college. I'm sure he makes much more now as that was 2 decades ago when he finished school. That, he was, IS. Just what do you propose IS the American dream?
Are you claiming employers should not be free to make choices? To the first question, you accept the right to make a choice, but one choice is at the expense of a human for your own benefit, is it not?
And that's pretty much a non-question...it's actually much in common with your post, both are statements, one is true and one likely is.
I'm sure I speak for most when I say I personally don't like those self check-out machines. They can be annoying when they don't register the bar code properly, fail to detect new objects in the bagging area, and when I buy alcohol they usually notify the staff anyway to come by and make sure I'm over 21. Yet I'm sure they can get phased out when you force society to make changes. Society usually resists making changes that cause less convenience, unless these changes are forced upon them. Americans were sure cranky when all 7-digit phone numbers became 10-digits a few years ago.
But it was Gongshaman who brought up the 'American dream', I was simply speaking of someone who set achievable goals, worked hard, and achieved them. People who set goals beyond their ability to accomplish them quite often fail to accomplish them. Many people fail to achieve goals in which they are capable of achieving simply because they put no effort into achieving what they are truly capable of achieving at the moment.
I remember a time when our phone number was just 4 digits, 3 numbers and a letter, denoting Left or Right jack panel for the operator to plug into. My mother worked as a telephone operator and was displaced when dial phones allowed numbers to be called without need of many operators. But then WWII came and found work at the ship yard. The longer you live, the more changes you have to deal with, some good and many bad. The effects of changes are best dealt with rationally, rather than emotionally.
Indie But my old friend we have been through the role of ‘effort’ in the - Effort or Luck Thread http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=400136 Effort is ok but the greatest effect on a person’s life is where and to whom they are born. This can give someone advantages or disadvantages that can affect their whole lives and their possibility of them having success or failure, long before they have the independence to take certain actions themselves, before they can reasonably be expected to set themselves career goals.
This debate reminds me of Hubert Turvy’s explanation of what golem labour would do to the city of Ankh Morpork in the Terry Prachett novel Making Money. It been - that eventually it would beggar the city. * 'Well, the problem is that, considered as a labour force, the golems are capable of doing the work per day of one hundred and twenty thousand men.' 'Think of what they could do for the city!' said Mr Cowslick of the Artificers' Guild. 'Well, yes. To begin with, they would put one hundred and twenty thousand men out of work,' said Hubert, 'but that would only be the start. They do not require food, clothing or shelter. Most people spend their money on food, shelter, clothing, entertainment and, not least, taxes. What would these golems spend it on? The demand for many things would drop and further unemployment would result. You see, circulation is everything. The money goes around, creating wealth as it does so.' 'You seem to be saying that these things could beggar us!' said Vetinari. 'There would be... difficult times,' said Hubert. *
A bit of a take on "then... let them eat cake." of Mary Antoinette. But at least she can be talked to.:2thumbsup: