Why not love this world? what's it all about?

sad, so sad:-((((((

smart? what is smart?

capable of learning? learning what?

now if you are not of the religious, the perverse or the greedy i would ?

what is this world? who created this world? what or who rules?

and this earth? who created the earth? who is destoying the creation?

simplicity? what is simplicity?

what causes confusion? and dis-ease(no-peace)?

what is freedom? what is liberty? what is love? what is peace?

what is Truth to you?

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Sorry what you said made no sense (to me at least). Didnt really answer my question that is..

 

Which "god" do you serve khar?

once again, your postings on these forums not only judge you,
they reveal who you are and what you serve:-((((((

rather simple to "see".......

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

Miracles do happen!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Who are you commenting to? Rather than dicussing the issue or *gasp* responding to his questions you simply reply with the same comments...kind of like a child with his fingers in his ears

 

exactly, before sense must come understanding and if i answered the
questions you asked with no understanding of what or why you asked that
would just breed confusion.

and so "braindirtying" just might have it's way once again:-((((((

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that there would be those who "see" the confusion and
dis-ease of this day and the cause of such.

so many held captive by the "strong delusion" that is "education",
so many held captive by "learning falsely so-called".......

that which is Real, that which should be "learned" is forever.......

may there be those who would but seek to experience that
which is Real....... for those who do so, simplicity will be their
guiding Light, "the simplicity that is in The Messiah".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

discernment will teach who "the child is with his fingers in his ears".......

till then, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

Miracles do happen!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Red herring once again, Francisco.

 

sad for you khar:-((((((

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

So you still refuse to talk with your brothers, but are willing to talk at them?

Sigh... it is too bad that you lack love for others, for if you do not love your brother, how can you truly love the God that sent him? That is sad.

 

I dont understand how one can be so confident in this world...How full of yourself can you be to believe you know the truth and then have the nerve to repeat something as asanine as "sad for you :-((((((" over and over agian. That is truely sad..

 

your words testify against you khar:-((((((
"doublespeak":-((((((

"who are my brothers and my sisters"?

"whoever will do The Will of Our Father WHO is in heaven"

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life"!

peace, even as war(spritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

"asanine" to you maybe, yet Truth is, i am sad for you:-((((((

of course lies would please you more, and so would you
have me do so? would you have me become one with
"the god of this world", "the father of lies"? i mean,
even "jerry" wouldn't appreciate that.......

don't liars have enuf "company" already?

peace, even as war(spritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

I've been hanging out in here for a cpl months now and the only really useful thing I've gotten was something that I initially took as an insult (wont say what it was unless somebody asks).


By some weird miracle I managed to put my pride slightly off to the side for a moment and looked at it again and I realised how right the other poster was, and that I was basically screwed unless I dealt with it.

I was in a funk over it for a couple of days but that's better than being in denial forever.

 

what was it

 

"You do so already"

 

one only has to review your postings to know you khar:-((((((

a manipulator, a child of "the father of lies" held captive by
your own imagination:-((((((

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

Miracles do happen!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

do yourself a favor and close this thread

 

favors are for those who seek favor.......

as The Messiah did, so also i but seek and desire:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope there would be those who "see" this wicked world(babylon) for what it
is, the creation of "the father of lies", he who seeks to destroy The Creation
of The ONLY TRUE GOD.

those who "see" will take heed unto The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to:

"Come out of her, MY people......."

they will "come out" of this wicked world and the systems of destruction
imagined by those of mankind who serve "the god of this world", "the father
of lies".......

they will "set their affections on things above", and as The Messiah they also
will desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

this;

"strange, how you "see" yourself?

as one who ?'s as a "seeker" when it is so
clear that you are but one who seeks to
establish his own "ego"."

I didn't know why at the time but this stuck in my head for a cpl days and everytime I thought about it I got sick.

I tryed going back to the thread to take another look but I couldn't. Everytime I headed in that direction I found myself looking at it in terms of what kind of come back I could come up with, or how I could "convince the audience"--and myself--that he was full of shit.

Point 1:I didn't really care if it was true, I cared alot more about how obvious it was to everybody else--so I was proving his point.

Point 2: I couldn't understand why it was such a big deal to me, and here's the thing I couldn't let myself understand. everytime I tried my mind started racing. I couldn't make myself understand or look at it for what it was. My ego wouldn't let me. so I'd proved his point again.

See, that's the point; my ego has control over me; it makes me think what I think, it makes me see what I see, it makes me do what I do.
I (whatever the "I" is) is just going along for the ride.

Most of the time it (the ego) is more subtle than this. I never really tried to oppose it head on before so when I ran into it and fell flat on my face I saw it for what it is--a fucking monster. and I saw myself for what I am--it's puppet.
Up til now I always saw my ego as something I tripped over from time to time, but it's alot bigger than that. It's like a brick wall that I can't break through or even see through.

everything it tells me is a lie. every path it leads me down is a dead end. Everything it asks me for is worthless--only good for show.

And it always knows which lies I'll go for.

even this "spiritual quest" I thought I was on to "overcome my ego" turned out to be just anothr ego trip.

How fucked up is that?

 

that is what each and every one of us is.......and that don't change.......
if we ever think "I" can, or that "I" don't need help,,,etc,,,

well we will once again have to be "shown" WHO "can" and as Children how "poor and in need" of Our Father we are.

the "experience" will once again be painful, yet, oh, the joy that comes in
the "seeing".......

The Messiah testified, "except a man deny himself("id", "ego", "I", "me",
"self-will",,etc,,,) he can not be My disciple".......period.......

as "The ONLY TRUE GOD was in The Messiah" so it must be "The Messiah
in you, the hope of glory".......

The Messiah did not teach what He did not do.......period.......

The Messiah "denied himself" and desired above all else:

"Father, not My will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".

your post warmed my heart, for it was from the heart.
"you" can't break thru, The Messiah He broke thru for you.......

receive The Gift.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis