Why not love this world? what's it all about?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, Jul 3, 2005.

  1. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    once again khar,

    indeed there is a "god's hand in everything"......

    question is which "god"?

    for there are "god's many"....... and "all things are and come from a god"

    question again is, "which "god" has it's "hand" in your life?"

    there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD khar.......

    "god" is who or what you serve.......

    which "god" do you serve khar?

    seems to me the "god" you serve is your own fleshly self.......

    gives you quite the "liberty" to be what "u" want to be,
    where "u" want to be,
    when "u" want to be,
    how "u" want to be,
    and how "u" want it to be:-((((((

    as for me? yesterday, today and forever i but desire,

    "Father, not my will. But THY Will Be Done"!

    simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life" as revealed in The Teachings
    and The Life example of The Messiah.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  2. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

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    *gasp*

    Amber cussed! You sinned. *points at Amber*
     
  3. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    test post to see if it shows up in this thread.. I can't see the new posts...
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Duhh. Which way did he go george?
    Probably this one, since there is no other:
    Ok buddy.
    Yeah. Maybe. [​IMG]
    It's a secret.
    No. I am a soul within this flesh of God's. I am a willing participant in God's actions (when I see clearly).
    And, remember this important one:
    who "u" want to be with
    and
    who "u" want to talk with [​IMG]
    You sure talk about it enough.
    Good stuff, ehh?
     
  5. Francisco

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    what of the "spirit" within you khar?

    your words bear witness to the "spirit" within you.......

    you're in a physical location where the "spirit" of "educational"
    "braindirtying" is very strong indeed:-((((((

    have you been "poisoned" by socrates?

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    So you should know the spirit that moves me by now, and how fully formed my faith is by what the spirit does with me.
    No. I am not. You close your heart to the truth out of fear.
     
  7. Francisco

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    yes i know that a "spirit moves you", that is why i am sad for you:-((((((
    could be you lied concerning your location. if not, then you are in a
    "physical location where the "spirit" of "educational" "braindirtying" is
    very strong indeed:-(((((("

    peace, even as war(spiritual) rages....... francisco
     
  8. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    You should be happy for me. Perhaps you do not recognize the spirit that moves me?
    Ohh, you mean State College. I am in State College right now, although I usually stay in Pittsburgh. I hope you know that beautiful flowers grow on dirt.
     
  9. Francisco

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    i believe the "spirit" that "moves you" is the spirit of "self-will",
    and so i am sad for you:-((((((

    as i stated you are in a place where the "educational" "braindirtying" spirit is
    very strong:-((((((

    and beautiful flowers? as the grass, and as mankind, they too soon pass away.......

    yet for mankind, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    for unlike flowers, mankind was created for the "eternals". indeed mankind
    was created of this earth, yet he was created with a soul and spirit.

    mankind was created with A Creator conscienciousness which "educational",
    "religious" and all other systems that are of this world seek to pervert and/or
    destroy. and so it is that the souls who serve "the god of this world" are
    destroying Creation. and it has been prophesied that "The Creator will destroy
    those who destroy HIS Creation"!

    so the need to take heed unto The Call of The Creator, HE WHO is The
    ONLY TRUE GOD....... so the need to heed HIS Call to:

    "Come out of her, MY people......."

    "Come out" of this wicked world(babylon) and it's perverse systems that are
    but the product of mankinds imagination, imagination which is of "the god of
    this world", especially the "images" that are his religious systems.

    Those who "come out" will "set their affections on things above" even as they
    respect Creation and appreciate the wilderness wonderlands, those unspoiled
    natural areas of Creation's Genius that yet remain.

    and those who "come out" will respect Life, for they believe in Life, not death.
    they know that "death" is not the answer so they "love there enemies" and as
    The Messiah, they also will desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life"!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  10. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Ohh. I am afraid you do not understand me.

    You are against God teaching me?
    So you do not appreciate what God has created with man?
    The reason I say that to our God is that I do not want to have my will blot out my Father's so we no longer interact. I don't mind doing my own thing sometimes (I believe it is healthy), but I absolutely love it when our Father does something special for me (through the world) that shows God's genious. I do not want absolute control, for that would blot out our Father's will- effectively eliminating our relationship (which has it's ups and downs, but is to valuable to lose). In fact, I believe all of the things I do of my own will are guided by our Father, so they are our Father's will as well.
     
  11. Francisco

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    once again, i believe the "spirit" that "moves you" is the spirit of "self-will",
    and so i am sad for you:-((((((

    as i stated you are in a place where the "educational" "braindirtying" spirit is
    very strong:-((((((

    and beautiful flowers? as the grass, and as mankind, they too soon pass away.......

    as to "god teaching you", the question is which "god"?

    The ONLY TRUE GOD did not "create with man", HE created man........

    "the god of this world" has "blinded the eyes of those who believe not The
    Messiah" and he has used them for his destructive purposes....... he has
    used them as one would slaves, and his slaves are "destroying The Creation
    of The ONLY TRUE GOD".......

    and prophecy testifies: "The Creator is going to destroy those who destroy
    HIS Creation".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  12. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    With dust. God created societies with man. You know, using man as a tool?
    Luckily for you your words cannot destroy my understanding of God.
     
  13. Francisco

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    again, which "god" created "societies"?

    and once again your words testify of your service to "the god of this world",
    he who is "the father of lies", "the angel of light", "d"evil.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  14. Francisco

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    "the duality", now where did that come from and why?

    who are the "different factions of elohim"?

    ""we" are not of the world, "we" are of the Holy Spirit". who are the "we"?

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  15. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    True to the god you serve "the father of lies", you have avoided the point entirely. I responded to your statement "The ONLY TRUE GOD did not "create with man", HE created man........" with the statement "With dust. God created societies with man. You know, using man as a tool?"

    Your whole question "which "god" created "societies"?" is a red herring, like most of your statements, since there is only One True God (as you are so fond of saying).

    This is the communication problem you have Francisco: You respond to legitimate statements with red herrings (a "red herring" argument is one which distracts the audience from the issue in question through the introduction of some irrelevancy). Although some of the irrelevant statements you make are true, they are not relevant to the conversation at hand.
     
  16. Francisco

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    until you changed your posting you had stated:
    (the above was sent by the auto-mailer at hipforums)

    indeed there is "ONLY ONE TRUE GOD" and HE testified that there
    "are many god's" yet there is "ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, Father of ALL".......

    "the many god's" include the "god's" that you serve.......

    two of the "god's" that you serve are "the god of this world" and your
    own "self":-( it seems you also serve the "god" of "education":-(

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  17. Colours

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    Whats wrong with education? Why would you blindly follow one god and not bother to seek the truth?
     
  18. Francisco

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    Truth is "education" is a lie....... and those void of experience, the
    truly "blind" are the "educated" ones....... especially "the religious
    pharisee's" of this day.......

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that parents would quit sacrificing their children
    unto the "god" of education.......

    hope that those who "education" has "braindirtyed" would
    be cleansed in the clear, clean "waters" of simplicity.......

    Miracles are Real!

    may you experience a Miracle.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  19. Colours

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    Why is there so much to learn about this world if your God doesnt want us to know any of it then? Why did he make us so smart and capable of learning?
     
  20. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    The reason I changed my post is because I realised your statement was a red herring. You still have not addressed the point I was making by covering up the truth with your question of "Which God do you Serve?"

    To the rest of you red herring, I say "So what?" Address what I say instead of stating irrelevant nonsense that covers up the truth. You show, by the way you avoid talking of the truth, that you do not serve God by speaking the truth.

    When you speak the truth, it is to misdirect from the truth. Nothing but red herrings, for you fear to address the real truths in what people say.

    Sad for you :-((((((

    Edited to add: it is more sad for the others you preach to, who you delay from learning real truths by your obfuscation of the truth.
     
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