Why not believe in Jesus?

Ryu,

I'm familiar with the concept of the second coming. I live in the United States. What I was stating is the reasons that I find it illogical. And further, if the only evidence for it is in revelations and not in the prophecies that preceded Jesus, then how does that prove its case very well? That would be like me coming along, claiming to be the messiah, getting some friends to go along with me -- but fulfilling nothing that would eliminate the need for belief such as world peace or bringing back the exiles -- and then having a friend write a book after I died to explain why there was no world peace and the exiles hadn't returned etc etc.

Now I have no problem with anyone believing this but as a Jew in a thread on the Jewish board about why Jews don't believe in Jesus I'm presenting something that appears as illogical and hardly a call for belief, actually a call for disbelief, to me.

Dauer

 

You're missing my point. Satan is within the realm of the bible. Everything within the realm of the bible, taken objectively falls very near to all other mythologies the ages have come up with. When you say greek mythology was a result of satan, you're taking it subjectively, which is the wrong thing to do if you're really trying to understand other people's viewpoints.

 

(quote): Greeks were the only others besides Pagans in that time to minister to.



wha?

the greek mythos was the "classic" pagan religion...
but, by christian definition, everyone at that time was either jewish, christian, or pagan/heathen/gentile...

(the gentiles that paul wanted as converts to his gospel/christianity were ususally the ones who hung around the outer portion of jewish synagogues, called "god-feraring gentiles" - those who were ivery nterested in hearing the jewish message of one supreme transcendent deity (sometimes the classic gods of olympus seemed, well - petty & almost human!), but unwilling (or even unable?) to go all the way & become full converts to judaism...
and then along comes paul & says that if they accept this crucified & risen jesus as the long-awaited messiah (= "annointed of god" = "christos") that they would become adopted children of abraham & equal sharers in the kingdom to come... and welcome to sit at table with those who still kept kosher law... (which did not sit terribly well with the jewish christian community in jerusalem, which was headed by james the just, brother of jesus...))



shalom

 

If it's illogical to you, that's fine. But I fail to see how.