Why must women act like tools?

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by MatrimCauthon, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. kain7th

    kain7th Member

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    But why do it though? Yes you kinda need your teeth to grind and tear food so you can swallow it. But why do you need fake breasts? It's like saying "Well i got nothing else to spend my money on, why not?"
     
  2. ReeferQueen

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    That's so funny cuz I'm nothing like that,, and I find it works for me.. I don't wear makeup unless it is a really important event,, which is hella rare,, and I don't fuck with my hair and I rarely paint my nails... and for the most part I go bra-less!! I realize that's what attracts guys most if nething,, well a large majority of guys.. but I don't do it for the attention,, I'd rather be comfortable and feel beautiful than torture myself to look "beautiful"
     
  3. moonlightdelerium

    moonlightdelerium Senior Member

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  4. Cryptoman

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    I think women who get breast implants are usually women who have had children and are experiencing some loss of self esteem. If their man starts looking at younger women with perky tits, it seems only natural for her to do something about it if she can. It's a shame though. I like the natural look (but I also think pregnant women without makeup are some of the hottest women on the planet!)
     
  5. electricstar

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    I think hippie minded women are out enough of this kind of risk.
    It seems to be a problem related principally to very exposed women like women who works in cinema or tv. I think many women trying to look better end up looking really bad.
    The problem is complex because I think there are multiple motivations; some of them just follow a wrong model of woman, some are too competitive with other women in the showbiz, some have self esteem problems, some imagine that man prefer perfection. But at the basis there is always a wrong philosophy and a weak person.
    I think they are all victim of a too competitive society where the difference is made by the size and shape of the breast or of the lips. And they have not the strength to rebel to this kind of society which seem to despise the human being in his/her individuality and peculiarity. It's a very sad thing. Plastic surgery is the doping of the showbiz. If people had the right consideration of Nature and of themselves this wouldn't happen.
     
  6. fritz

    fritz Heathen

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    This thread...Lovely. I'm not reading through this thing, it'll just piss me off to no end..
    Who's a tool?
    What society are we living in?
    How many homes have televisions on in them twenty four seven?
    Stupid women's magazines, & lingerie mags that get used as porno mags by those too young to get to the media they are looking for, or too embaressed to do it.
    How many men do I know have destroyed family lives by chasing beauty, especially young beauty?
    How many men would drop their wives, & girlfriends cold to go fuck Angelina Jolie?
    How many mom's are just as fucked up as Patsy Ramsey?

    I don't think blame rests on just one sex, it's on both.

    I think it's up to the individual to liberate themselves.
     
  7. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    most girls are raised from birth that looks are important. if they're blessed with good genes, then yay, they don't even have to wear makeup, lucky them. if not.... then they have to work on other things to be attractive... and even then that doesn't always make up for stuff in the social life... especially growing up. just check out those millions of teenybopper movies where the nerdy girl puts on makeup and wala, she's a hottie.... seems most ppl can handle being called a bitch, but fat or ugly for some reason... i dunno, it's worse. and nowadays you can help "cure" your ugliness so many ppl go for it. although i don't really understand rich attractive women seeking to have the perfect physique.... like being pretty isn't enough, they have to look like a supermodel. i dunno... not everybody is blessed with great genes and there is a lot of emphasis on looks in life.

    i have to agree with a lot of what fritz said... but of course here on hipforums we have a lot of hippies who really DO like natural-ness even if it is a little on the homely side...
     
  8. mockingbirdbat

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    Kissya -- I think your comment is a little weird appearing, as it does, with the graphic you've chosen for yourself.

    Some women do, in fact, fantasize about being more physically beautiful than they might believe they are. I do admit there are degrees of fantasy that might verge on, if not tip over completely into, pathology, but I bet your graphic (of a beautiful, well-endowed, big-haired [taloned; interesting], woman) is related to the woman you either wish you were, or the woman you feel you already are on your inside. Some women who feel big-breasted decide to just go ahead and be big-breasted. I'm not sure it's fair to criticize them out of hand without also criticizing the rest of use who make physical changes, albeit not necessarily as permanent. (Although how many people on this board have tattoos? And can those of you who approve of tattoos but disapprove of boobjobs explain to me how, ultimately, tattooing is different from breast enlargement? Don't get snappy, either -- I'm not asking a rhetorical question, even if I am skeptical about the existence of a rational answer to it.)

    I think that, instead of jumping down women's throats for having cosmetic surgery, we should all make more of an effort to compliment each other every day, and not just on each other's behavior, but on each other's appearances. A woman with beautiful, big brown eyes who gets regularly told she has beautiful, big brown eyes might not have the motivation to start obsessing about her A-cup breasts.

    Remember, people, we don't have to love each other to compliment each other. We don't even have to know each other. And we don't have to stop being nice to each other just because we see each other making questionable life-choices (assuming those choices involve no one but the person making them). We can continue to try and boost each other even after we've made mistakes. Next time you see a woman who clearly has had cosmetic surgery, why not compliment her on something not related to that surgery?

    We're a society, too, remember. Society saying a woman isn't a woman if her boobs aren't big -- how is that different from another society saying a woman's a dumbass if she wants to have bigger boobs? If we really practice what we preach, those of us who say looks shouldn't matter ought to prove it by not being maliciously critical of women who decide to have plastic surgery. Whose business is it, anyway, either way?

    And finally, why are we mad at the women who think they need cosmetic surgery? Why are we angry with people for not having the "right" kind of self-esteem? I'm wondering if some of what we're feeling -- that we attribute to indignation -- might not also be petty frustration about someone not playing by the rules we've set for ourselves. "She's got bigger boobs than me!" we gripe, but not just because we feel sorry for her "lack of self-esteem." We might also just be annoyed that she took a short-cut we're not willing to take, ourselves. However. Even if what we say we feel is really mostly what we feel -- a sadness about women who feel they need to have surgery in order to be thought attractive, I'm not sure that a reasonable reaction to that is to criticize. When we meet someone shy, do we yell at that person for being shy? "You just don't have enough self-esteem!!" Do you think that's going to help someone be less shy? Have you ever known it to?

    My personal opinion is that it'd be great to live in a world where everyone's beauty -- inner and outer -- would be easy to see. But, while the real world doesn't work like that, I think we can also be grateful that it doesn't. The discovery of a person's private beauty can be a fun journey -- just as fun as it sometimes is not to tell everyone all our secrets all at once.

    Let's take the time we're using to be all judgy about other people's boobs, or noses, or hair, and use it in some other ways, just for an experiment. Let's tell each other we're smart, and pretty, and that our sweater choices are awesome. And don't act like you can't think of anything nice to say about every single person with whom you come in contact every day, because it's just not true. If you can't do it, you're probably just rusty.
     
  9. oblivion

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    ive had a boob job. i shouldnt have to explain but i will. before having my daughter i ha 32 E boobs ok. then i breast fed her for nearly a year which i do not regret for one second. but afterwards my boobs shrank to 32 B, they were wrinkled from the amount of strech marks and flat empty sacks with nothing inside them. i am 27 and had the boobs of an old woman. this really affected my self esteem and i was very embarrased for anyone including my partner to see them. some women such as my sister breast fed both her children but she had smaller breasts to begin with and didnt have this problem. she is infact 17 yrs older than me and still has fabulous natural breasts. i had become so distraught about my situation that i had the opperation. my boobs now are 32 DD, and just as good as before. it has helped my self esteem soooo much. i now feel like my old self again. Also im a natural blonde and very rarely wear make up.
     
  10. oblivion

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    oh and p.s. matrimcauthon, breasts are made up of milk glands and fat so no amount of going to the gym will alter the apperance of breasts
     
  11. Vana

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    Amen.
     
  12. Haid

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    I am with you on not liking all the fakeness of it all but I have to agree with this.


     
  13. Malapascua

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    I can see a woman having breast implants in the case of a mastectomy, or a double mastectomy, but just for man-bait?

    No, I think it is a waste of money and a whole lotta pain for nothing.
     
  14. Prettypurplestar1986

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    I know, I agree. I think its un-natural to modify my body, I wouldn't do it, I dont wear make up or shave my legs. Im a natural girl. I like been the way I am.

    I give my vegan love and I give my peace.:)
     
  15. clementinexo

    clementinexo hip *****s sucks.

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    i have never felt the need to get any surgery. the only surgery i'm having done is dental and obviously, that is a must. i'm gorgeous and if anyone disagrees they can choke on a dick because i'm happy.
    hahaha
     
  16. pctec

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    They do it for us you know :D
    Thats the saddest part...
     

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