Why is the Pope so important?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Dizzy Man, Apr 3, 2005.

  1. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Many early Americans were protestants that came over here to escape catholicism and the persecution they were suffering by catholics.

    And there were rules about how to treat your fellow human being before organized religion. To say that we wouldn't care about rape, stealing, etc...without religion is plain old misinformation.
     
  2. Ayesha

    Ayesha Member

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    Jozak, your comment was quiet good, very correct, really... :)
    I'm not Catholic indeed, but I live in a country that has many influences of the Christianity and particularly of the Catholicism...
    I understand the revolt many people feel against the Catholic Church, because of the terrible things that happened in the past and some that still happen... But I do not understand the way some people judge with their own minds closed...
    The Pope, wether you agree or not, is the spiritual leader for many people and he means a lot for them... The Pope that is dead now meant even more for some of them, he was like an example, a person that represented their faith... Isn't it natural that now they feel sad? Come on, how hard is that to understand?
     
  3. sm0key42o8

    sm0key42o8 Senior Member

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    Isnt the pope a false idol. I mean dont the chatholics pray to him and all?
     
  4. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    did the pope just die?!!!!! I thought I heard something about that
     
  5. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    ooo a german..
    I thought they were going to go with someone from latin america

    I hate Germany :D
     
  6. mhr

    mhr Member

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    Ahh, such blindness and ignorance.

    Whats causing the rampant spread of aids is people having sex outside of monogamous relationships. Has nothing to do with the churches policy on birth control.
     
  7. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    quote: Whats causing the rampant spread of aids is people having sex outside of monogamous relationships. Has nothing to do with the churches policy on birth control

    well, thats no reason not to blame the pope!
     
  8. mhr

    mhr Member

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    Did I say Christianity was the only religion? No. I said Christianity is the foundation of America and it is.

    Notice how I said "religious beliefs" and not "organized religion". Without our religious beliefs, which is the basis of seperating good from evil and right from wrong, you would not know the difference between the two. Religious beliefs are within us and not something man made or organized.

    Let's say, for a moment, that our religious beliefs don't exist. Who says rape and murder is wrong then? Based on what? Something inside us says it's wrong? how would that be possible? Good and evil no longer exist remember so everything is right because nothing tells us it's wrong.

    Now, put our religious beliefs back in place and what happens. Your heart says not to rape other people. Your heart says not to steal from others. You are able to get upset with people without killing them because you have the ability to value and love life. You know whats right and wrong because you have that power within you.

    Think about it.
     
  9. mhr

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    No he isn't a false idol. We do not believe he is our God. He's a messenger and servant of our God.
     
  10. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    there is a difference between religious beleifs and morality. a big difference
    sure, many religious beleifs also posses morals, but that is not to say that the two are dependant on each other.

    if i dont beleive in any deitys, that does not mean that i dont beleive that murder etc is wrong. murdering others is wrong, because i myself do not wish to be murdered. if i accept that it is right to murder others, than i am accepting that it is right that someone murder me. i dont need a book to dictate common sense to me.


    and i dont see how you can excuse the pope for persuading people not to use condoms. obviously saying "stop having sex" isnt working. whats wrong with putting out a message of "having extramarrital sex is wrong, but if its gonna happen use a condom"
     
  11. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    Can a priest and a boy be monogamous?

    (the dead pope sure did all he could to protect all those pedophiles in his little cult)
     
  12. he leads the church, he's the red phone to god, I'm happy martin luther came along
     
  13. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    Amen to that, brother!

    I just can't believe that a catholic on here is preaching sexual morality. I don't think they will ever have credibility in that area again.
    :rolleyes:
     
  14. see my post kilgore God can't break a condom? it shreiks of anger and teenage angst but it's fairly logical
     
  15. Jozak

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    How is it the Pope's fault people are having uncontrolled sex with multiple partners? You should think about that, and the fact that people need to take responsibility for their damn actions, moron.
     
  16. Jozak

    Jozak Member

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    First off, my church is not a cult. Secondly, No, he didn't. A pattern of moronic posts coming from you is becoming evident. The pope changed the laws to, "One time, you are out" of the priesthood. He did his best, and the Church has payed millions out to victims.
     
  17. Jozak

    Jozak Member

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    Thanks. You are the first Portugeuse I have ever met that's not Catholic.
     
  18. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    his best? I disagree, ON THAT SUBJECT. He did do his best to keep aids spreading. "God will forgive you for fucking indescrimenetly, as long as you dont protect yourself or those you choose to sin with. " I am glad to see the new pope feels the same way.:rolleyes:
     
  19. Spuff

    Spuff Where's my ciggies?

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    Religion on a whole is an outdated concept. We're slowly growing out of the need for it but it won't be in my lifetime that I see it fade into memory.
    I'm not being disrespectful to those who are religious. I just live in the 21st century and personally, don't see any practical uses for religion.
     
  20. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    stimulates the economy, and face it, some people need stuff they cant afford and without a preacher making you feel like your going to suffer eternally if you dont spare what you can, theres no hope for most soup kitchens.
     

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