Why Is Rock Still Dead?

They are more common in larger cities where power can be siphoned from something else on some obscure rooftop. There are some ridiculously powerful Hispanic pirate stations around NYC. The problem is being able to broadcast with equipment that does not require a direct connection. In a city you can transmit a stereo signal across an infrared laser to a receiver that then converts it to audio and sends it straight out the FM transmitter.

The problem I have is being out in the sticks. There's no way a laser will work thanks to mother nature. So I'm trying to figure out a way to make a kind of wi-fi relay using off-the-shelf cards. The other issue is power. Tapping out here is a no-go. So I have to rely on solar. It works for all the SCADA shit I see on the side of the road. What I would like to do is set up several of these receiver-rebroadcasters in a line going along a highway. Overlap the FM signal every 4 or 5 miles. The power would be too low for local interference and the only people who would hear it are those using the highway or living with a few miles of it.

The whole thing would fit on a 2 inch pole sunk into the earth. The batteries and electronics would fit into a regular metal box. The FM antenna looks like any other VHF and the wi-fi is a directional Yagi. The solar panel I tested is a 15 watt. It's more than enough for the 7 watt (CZH-7C) FM side, but the battery will only run it into the evening for maybe 6 hours. Which means it's basically only good for commuting hours unless I shut down several hours during the day and devote all the power to the batteries during peak sun. Everybody's at work anyway.

I figure if I keep the music at around 90% and toss in some other realistic programming, any dial scanner isn't going to know it from another station and won't complain. It's not like I'm going to broadcast klan meetings or the Black Panther's Cooking Hour. I also think it would be a GREAT medium for local bands. But they would have to feign any connection to an illegal station. Their MP3 will just have to arrive in some obscure email in New Zealand maybe.

 

Exactly. Do we care what word processor an author used? Any tool is an extension of our humanity. Art transcends this and the tools become an extension of our mind and soul.

 

I don't think thats always necessarily true. Tastes can evolve.
There are things I dismissed in my youth that I appreciate more now.
I can get into much broader instrumentation and dynamic for instance, than simply the well worn guitar, drum kit and bass combo. The orchestra I think can be perhaps the highest expression of musical art. I like heavy music ( among other things) but modern Heavy metal IMO has nothing on the sheer power and force of a well executed Stravinsky or Mussorgsky composition, just to name a few.

 

http://youtu.be/qNYfM0ovwug Take Polyphia for instance. They are young, EXCELLENT musicians and take old structures to new heights. And yes, they would blow the muppet show away.lol
Thing is, they can play everything..and they do. This is just their creation.

 

I sooo agree with you Theprodu. Btw, I had to reformat that ISO track..thats why it wouldnt load

 

yes, they can...i was just going by your Zappa quote ....

 

Yes, im more likely to believe the economic, mathematical angle

Downloading killed rock as there then wasnt enough funds to get outrageous acts in the mainstream in the first place.

Then festivals instead of single headliners as costs increased, organizers not going to gamble on big tours unless acts already established

And becuase every genre is running at the same time now rock acts that will get the numbers have to have wider appeal, so it will be the safe generic ones pushed into the forefront, like coldplay

 

Rock 'n' roll isn't a martial art. There's nobody's ass to kick. I loathe this looking upon rock as some kinda cool revolution with beer drinkin' and big titties and kickin' some weak guy's ass? Who? Kurt Cobain? He rocked harder than anybody making music today. "Loud" and "visceral" are not the same things. You need to be visceral to rock hard -- you don't even need to be loud to rock hard. Bob Dylan rocks harder than anybody playing today.

 

I'll give you that he wrote some catchy pop songs, and ( though he tended to get whiny lyrically and vocally) had a great rock voice, but he was an embarrassment as a lead guitarist. He spawned a whole generation of angst ridden, whiny-ass indy/ grungy rock bands that could barely play their instruments.
I remember watching a live broadcast, where there was the band and a cellist on the side ( probably one of the best paying gigs of her life unfortunately) Kurt attempted to play a guitar solo, consisting of like 2 or 3 notes, out of tune bending and all....
'dear lord' I thought to myself, ' just fucking kill yourself dude, you suck!' and well, turns out he did.

 

Wow, you're a complete and utter piece of shit. Congratulations.

 

Neon, its a term, used when you are a master of your instrument or play something really well that touches people. The bar in playing has been upped, and as far ad the musicians musicians, you need to be a master of your instrument.you need to kick ass. Internet killed the radio star, so now, everyone..those of us doing it for a living are looking for other venues.But lol rock certainly isnt dead,

 

Besides music is for everyone. Many cannot play an instrument, so they turn to the closest thing..software. Musicians and digital jockeys alike. Everyone rocks in their own way.young and old alike. The rules have changed, just have to adapt.

 

Btw, I happen to like Kurt's music. He wasnt a master on guitar, but he put something out there that touched people..not to mention changed the face of music as we knew it. And many musicians arent happy about that. It is what it is tho.

 

That's all well and good, but I don't think it has a lot to do with rock. Rock has nothing to do with conformity. Historically, it hasn't. Its greatest legends have all been rule benders and freaks. So if you're going to tell me that suddenly you have to play your guitar like Beethoven in order to be rock, I'm just going to tell you that you're flat out crazy. The bar, the standard that has been set, is that ANYBODY can play rock and roll. Literally your grandma could play shitty two chord rock songs and people would be pretty cool with that. Especially if she's got something to say.

 

Exactly, and as I pointed out about Kobains success and influence, the bar has been lowered.

 

Rock 'n' roll isn't a martial art. There's "nobody's ass to kick. I loathe this looking upon rock as some kinda cool revolution with beer drinkin' and big titties and kickin' some weak guy's ass? "

Cool revolution? Um, dude, I dont know know what kind of dudes youre playing with who would think like that but, it isnt about being "cool" .LMAO and it is like a martial art in a sense..cause you have to dedicate and train.For hours and hours. ~Shrugs~ unless you want to suck. Popular doesnt always mean good.

 

Music is all about creating emotional atmospheres, so I'm not sure he wasn't a guitar master. He created more interesting atmospheres, in my opinion, than many more technically adept guitar players. So what does mastery really mean? If you just want speed and dexterity then I guess he wasn't a master. Whatever the case, I think theprodu's comment was a little out of line. I don't get wishing suicide upon anyone.

I'm fine having different opinions on what rock is. I'd hate for anybody to stop rockin'.

 

In certain genres there's such a thing as too trained and too polished, in my opinion, and rock is one of those genres. That's why bands like A Simple Plan failed to rock.

 

I do agree with your last post Neon, in that its for everyone. I like cats who know their shit, and therefore can translate expertly, the complexity that appeals to me. Thats who I enjoy playing with too. Because it feels great and sounds great. I dont think Theprodu meant it like youre taking it..thats a very common saying ..ive heard it from tons of guys talking about someone who cant play. But, again, no one can say he wssnt a master at touching peopke, because he was. And he could write. He also inspired a whole new genre...thats a monumental feat in itself.

 

Make that second to last post. I dont agree that polished isnt rock.