Why Is Rock Still Dead?

Discussion in 'Music' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    It's just a lot of fun!

    Hundreds and thousands of kids can play like that these days so thats no surprise, but that he got right up there and just fit in...me smells a shill. [​IMG]
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I love OK Computer! This may sound weird but I feel if there was an album that 'killed rock' as a movement, I think that was it. It feels like an album that dissects rock in some way and is a simultaneous gratitude and 'fuck you' to reliance on technology. It's an album that is more pertinent thematically then ever and no bands since have been really able to improve on it in the 21st century thus far imo.

    It's on a different level.
     
  3. briezie13

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    Indeed, kids are gettin on their instruments these days.A whole new crop of rock players waiting in the wings.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    I've seen Steel Panther live, they have all kinds of skits and dialogue between songs, so yes I do think that kid is a shill.
     
  5. Yeah OK Computer is so epic some people are just baffled by it. Does rock go on, or is rock the theme music to a deserted wasteland we are no longer a part of?

    I think rock can escape the conundrum Radiohead has created simply by rocking hard enough, and I leave it up to anyone to do this at any time. :)
     
  6. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    Finally some radiohead fans

    They not only put out some of the best albums, they're hidden genius's
    Check out this playlist part of their binary theory which you can read more about here: http://puddlegum.net/radiohead-01-and-10/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAos89cuSgQ

    Kid 17 is also an incredible thing to look up
     
  7. briezie13

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    What is a shill? A plant..not as in green. But as in pre arranged?
    if so, I cant tell you if it is or not, but going in cold like that isnt a big deal, I do it all the time, and giys I know do too. And they played stuff the kid knew, so he wasnt having to step out of his element. If he was, it was still kindof a cool move on SP's part, all things considered.
     
  8. Radiohead have always done weird stuff like that, Sleepy Cat. Do you remember the ziggurat? They're coming out with a new album this year. I am anxious to hear it.
     
  9. Gongshaman

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    I hear nothing baffling or epic about Radiohead, but if they are inspiring for you, thats cool. They are certainly more musical than Helmut
     
  10. Gongshaman

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    At least pre-arranged.They knew he could play. An acquaintance of the bands little brother or something.
    Highly unlikely some guy just yells out 'lemme play your guitar' and they let him onstage. No harm done, just a fun stunt.
     
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  11. I never said they were inspiring for me.
     
  12. Gongshaman

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    Well my fucking bad then, miss contrary.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Same here. But I acknowledge it is my taste and preferences that are a large part of that ;) It is easy to acknowledge they are a newer form of rock and that it's quality is good. It is just not what I like to listen to. I explicitly avoid saying 'that they can play' or 'they are better than other rock' as I feel some people focus a bit too much on who's or what's best (while we have concluded this thread is 1) not about that, and 2) awfully subjective) :p
     
  14. I'm a boy.
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    They can play and they are better than other rock. :p

    The album OK Computer got elected into National Recording Preservation Board last year.

    "Congress understood the importance of protecting America’s aural patrimony when it passed the National Recording Preservation Act 15 years ago," said Billington. "By preserving these recordings, we safeguard the words, sounds and music that embody who we are as a people and a nation."

    Under the terms of the National Recording Preservation Act of 2000, the Librarian, with advice from the Library’s National Recording Preservation Board (NRPB), is tasked with annually selecting 25 recordings that are "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" and are at least 10 years old"
     
  16. Asmodean

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    All bands shared in this thread can play ;) (so saying they can play just doesn't mean much to anybody else) And no, they are an innovative and musically and conceptual form of rock that can be just as good as any other form of rock. Wether it is better or not remains subjective :p

    Not sure what is the exact significance of that (for me, but also in the general sense). For one, it's a national thing. But maybe the people who did the electing were also bound to choose an innovating or newer form of rock (for instance, not saying it's the case). So it does obviously not mean other forms of rock that fit better in older and established genres/formulas are automatically less good :-D
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    I don't think it's as subjective as you make it out to be. There is subjectivity in tastes but there has to be some sort of criteria to make a band popular, or appeal to a significant amount of people. Otherwise, I don't think we would ever have legends of rock.

    Here is a modern criteria, since you feel the need to keep babbling your disapproval about bands others praise. To consider a band "keeping rock alive" they at least need a wikipedia page. :D which eliminates several of the bands you have posted.


    Well Radiohead is not an American band but I think the organization is in regards to music which has had an impact on American culture. The Doors debut is on there from this past year as well and there are like spoken word records and stuff. It's attempting to preserve culturally important sound recordings the way culturally significant art and literature has tried to be preserved in some cultures .
     
  18. Gongshaman

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    Radiohead is not a newer form of rock. Though their style is fairly ambiguous, it's not all that difficult to pick out the elements they've sifted from the tailings of Rock.
    Furthermore, is it really necessary to include 'IMO'
    every other sentence so someone doesn't get all butt-hurt over it?
     
  19. briezie13

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    http://youtu.be/OvjVGh0jmzY
    I know you guys dont really care about what I have to say, or like my taste in music,but my friend Tony, whom I also consider a mentor, and whos band Ive posted above..or, at least one of them, is still going strong. Right now he is touring Russia .Hes been working on a recording project for the past two years, and the results are coming out very soon.Please refrain from slamming the band or his music because he is one of the bigger contributors in rock and roll out there and I would get really offended. He lives the dream , and he keeps the rock n roll alive.
    P.S. Its an all go to make fun of that hair though..we laugh at him all the time about it..lol and he laughs right along with us.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Well, that's about what makes a good rock band. Which stuff is the best will always be subjective. But I am only answering in good fun to your post. I agree with KarenJ that it would be sad to make this thread a contest about taste.


    I actually didn't think I was the one who kept doing that on the last few pages (after briezie and me established there's little point in keep doing that). When i did I was only reacting to others or was even asked if i liked it or not.
    I'm not simply disapproving bands others praise...
    About your modern criteria: Ok, some didn't make their own wiki page or haven't make it big. Really, I'm not even plan on getting into this. I'm not the one saying of other peoples shared stuff that those bands can't play.


    I agree, shouldn't be :p
     

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