Why Is Rock Still Dead?

Discussion in 'Music' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Genres are dead, and at the same time there is a tremendous amount of new music in all genres. There is good new music that bends genres in all kinds of great ways, and there's new music that tries to be a purist exercise in one genre - and usually is ironically better because it fails in some way.

    Yeah, popular rock/metal/whatever sucks. Because it's pop.

    Pop is like roger, it's got a pathological disguise problem. No matter where you go, you realize the receptionist is pop.
     
  2. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    In these post-modern times the term is just too ambiguous to even discuss.

    If you ask me, when you can't hear the blues influence it's no longer rock.
     
  3. RooRshack

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    I'm afraid to listen to their new stuff.

    They had a rough patch of their own. They've got a half dozen amazing albums, but then some shit like "no joke" is boring to the point that it's hardly music, and the cover brings some pretty seriously unpleasant vibes to the table.
     
  4. Fairlight

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    "No Joke" was a bad album,but I think they were trying to attract a mainstream audience after there exposure with the Nirvana unplugged session.There last three albums have been pretty cool.They had a lousy mid-period using drum machines and stolid riffing.However there last three albums have been pretty cool.More varied song structured,improved musician ship and a somewhat mellower vibe.I've always appreciated their lyrical lunacy and I admire their tenacity in remaining in the music business when so many bands from that era have passed by the wayside.I think my fave album is "Mirage",which was a bit pop.
     
  5. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Radio has been taken over by mega-corporations. Even the "classic rock" stations only play the equivalent of rock's "top 40". I'm saving my vinyl for pirate radio. But I do think we don't have enough people coming into it.
     
  6. briezie13

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    What I've noticed as a working musician, is much of the mainstream..and even not so mainstream, is hybridizing.(lol is that even a word) Example..take top 40 country. I had to learn some for a fill in job, and as I was learning the songs, I noticed that they were simply the older rock and top 40 pop structures, with a twang here, banjo there, and lots of tailgates down. Personally I love to play progressive , but truth is, I love it all. Rocks not dead, its just different now, thats all.
     
  7. Mr.Mesmer88

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    ... rock isnt dead.

    you think just because you hear it on Payola stations that it isn't still a thing? blues, bluegrass, rockabilly, psychobilly, those genre's are still alive and well, so is Ska.

    get on the internet man, you're missing out.
     
  8. Mr.Mesmer88

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    THANK YOU

    cross pollination of awesome gave us awesome new fruit in the form of subgenre's. I'm hearing metal fusing with jazz and samba, I'm hearing samba pop up in ska, blues in pop, the world is changing and the music tells the story.
     
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  9. RooRshack

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    Radio is now on the internet.
     
  10. briezie13

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    In reality, theres some damn good stuff out now.jmho. And yes, jazz, experimental, rock, grunge, metal including rap and hip hop are fusing. Its awesome.
     
  11. RooRshack

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    I wanted to like mirage, but it really wasn't that interesting to me, it all sounded the same. Not just in the sense that their albums follow a general common sound theme, but like... the same and dumbed down.

    I think II is a brilliant psychedelic album, one of the best ever. It mixes various country, folk, psychedelic, punk, and rock sounds in perfect natural ways - and it's absolutely amazing how it came out of left field, because while it's not offensively bad, meat puppets I is really not worth listening to. Up on the sun is neat, but usually somewhat hard to listen to, without the right state of mind. Huevos is generally good, but not quite as good as it's cover art, and too high to die is great too. I've given forbidden places and monsters a listen, and like some of them, find some of them boring.

    I'm nobody's fan - so I haven't listened to their whole discography, even though I've listened to the stuff I've stumbled on that I like, a fair bit - I found no joke and out my way (I think it's called) to really suck, they sort of turned me off to exploring more meat puppets stuff, when I hit on those turds.
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well, redo the question then, why is rock still dead in the mainstream

    Some of you have embedded vids that may help me discover a decent album

    But none listed have gotten anywhere, and so so production value cos they dont have the green

    And rock isnt just about the music, you want a big show live.

    There isnt a single stadium filler rock act to come from the last 15 years
     
  13. Meliai

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    I never realm cared for huge stadium concerts so I'm okay with that. I would much rather see a good band in a smaller venue.
     
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    there is no zztop, no journey, no ratt, no stinky dan, no oink floyd, no black sabbath, no whitesnake, no boston, no lez deplin , no acdc, no bowie, no cooper, no genesis, no hall and oats, no billy joel, no halen, no queen, no bon jovi , no kiss, no night ranger, no tom petty , no rolling stones, no bob seger, no styx, no rod stew, no who, no nothing but bieberswiftcyurusgaga ...

    you couldnt fill your summer concert list for weeks and weeks if you tried..

    none of the current acts could make it on Muppet show..
     
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  15. guerillabedlam

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    http://youtu.be/0qsAekiIVNw


    http://youtu.be/TKkRHKx66Uc
     
  16. You mad? What do you mean "you mad"? I am thinking very clearly. Anger has nothing to do with it, only righteous disdain.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Thank God some of those bands you listed are no longer making music. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop their music from getting played.
     
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    data leaches.... must be nice.
     
  19. I've never even heard of Stinky Dan. I can't imagine he was a huge stadium act.
     
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    go back to listening to your con-yay west. great entrainment ..

    Really positive messages.. great for the welfare society..


     

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