Why Is Rock Still Dead?

Some more tracks of Greenleaf as I have the feeling it's what Vanilla Gorilla might dig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3hxnwIUMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IL3I3ZCEQU

 

Classical hit the deck as an adult, so no, its tough to improve on Bach or Beethoven..in that style. When I say punk grew up or got modern, I mean that the players who are in that genre upped their gaje and realized they needed to learn to actually play. By doing so, they removed the limits that where imposed by their lack of skill. Now, they can take it anywhere they want to take it.

 

http://youtu.be/qFWoIyqSjlA

theres an example of djent, melodic metal that verges on hard rock.

 

Don't you find personalities fascinating at all? Isn't that a big part of rock, too? I don't see how you can improve upon a personality, and I think there are huge personalities whose music, however poorly played, fit the personality perfectly. You know what I mean?

I don't think rock is growing up. I guess the personalities I find more appealing are the quirkier ones, rather than the more serious ones like Nickelback.

 

Thats all just a bunch of plastic shit called 'image', usually managed by press agents.
You know, you can't be a rocker unless you trash enough hotel rooms and throw enough TV's out the window, smash guitars onstage and so forth, lol

You can't possibly know their true personality's... unless of course you know them, personally.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NizD9jkh4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AObeWoZvHD4

 

There's such a thing as charisma and mystique though, is there not? There is something that makes some personalities more appealing as rockers than others. We're not just a bunch of monkeys looking at guys with guitars and thinking that's cool...and making the mistake of thinking these beloved personalities deserve it.

 

On second thought, maybe rock has grown up. Like they say, there's a fine line between genius and insanity. Maybe we shouldn't promote these guys who teeter on that line, because often the results are tragic. Maybe the music isn't worth it.

 

Not for me. I judge musicians by the quality of their chops. No one deserves shit if they don't have the musical mojo to back it, beloved personality or not.

 

Neon, there are plennnnty of playrrs who are quiet or boring in daily life, but you put an instrument in their hand and they can become a different animal altogether. But much of that"charisma" is bull shit, for stage appeal. Many of the players now have said screw that, and are being more themselves in the music mode.

 

"Not for me. I judge musicians by the quality of their chops. No onedeserves shit if they don't have the musical mojo to back it, beloved personality or not."

You got that right !! And thats how most of us feel now. Its becoming more about the music itself.

 

I don't even like referring to guitar skills as "chops". It reminds me of meat.

 

It isnt a matter of promoting them or not that causes tragic results really, its when people who dont know shit about real music and trying to change it into something that will make a ton of money.

 

Oh well, thats the saying .You got chops, you can cut it. You dont? Lol suck.

 

So you're the one who has decided that all musicians are partly bullshit created for stage appeal? Let's remember that there's a difference between doing something awesome for fun and doing something with the agenda "This is definitely going to be appealing to a crowd." You don't know when you do something spontaneous and fun that it's going to go over well, necessarily. You guys seem to want to dwindle rock down to a formula we can all know and some can learn, but that is not what rock is. You cannot imprison it within a cage! It is loose and it is wild! Roar!

 

"So you're the one who has decided that all musicians are partly bullshit created for stage appeal? "

Um no. Its an observation ive made while working and jamming with them, while knowing them personally. I didnt say ALL anyway. Thats just silly.

 

Really? You are going to try and explain to me about the spontenaity and fun of playing?
Btw, it does come down to formulas whether you want to accept that or not. That in no way means that you cant go outside the box.

 

Stage personas and charismatic musicians and frontmen will always be a part of rock, and other genres. They are extremely hard to get rid off as every generation has that same people Not that I want to get rid of it. The ones that make music I don't like automatically don't have my attention. It's pretty easy to focus on the good stuff (once you know it's out there)

 

Neon. If you think that we jump around like we do on stage and act lkke we do while practicing? You are going to be sorely dissapointed. We do to a degree, because we are enjoying what we do...but nothing like you see onstage.

 

Yes it is Asmo, cause ..again, its alive and kicking. Just some brands of rock have grown old and tired and no one but a few want to play it anymore. But yep, there are bands out who copy that gratsful dead style that can never really be duplicated and carry it on as it was.