Why is PUSSY used as a bargaining chip?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by profezzor_x, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. Stevie2Wonder

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  2. lunarflowermaiden

    lunarflowermaiden Senior Member

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    I'd say love is. Sex is meaningless without love.
     
  3. sushiosoyum

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    And romantic ('loving') relationships are meaningless without sex.
     
  4. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    I certainly do not prescribe to this "bargaining chip" ideal, but you can bet if he's pissed me off, he's not getting anything that night if I am still angry. I'm not just a piece of ass that lays down and spreads 'em because "he's got needs." I'm pretty easy (no pun intended) on most counts in that sense with my boy, but if I'm mad, chances are, I'm not going to be in the mood. Also, I don't think "angry sex" is very fulfilling...

    This isn't what you meant, was it profezzor?
     
  5. sushiosoyum

    sushiosoyum Member

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    Depends on how long you carry the grudge.

    week or more, well, expect to see your guy getting some side action imo
     
  6. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    I understand what you're saying about sex being an important part of a relationship, and I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree! It is wicked important, but it also needs to be said that when there are underlying issues, it may have to take a backseat for a while. Obviously, a little tiff over doing the dishes shouldn't last a week. That's just fucked up. But something a little more major, like selling the family car and buying a chopper, sleeping with my sister, hiding a gambling addiction and losing my grandmother's inheritance? The gates to this ride are closed. But I also think it depends on how serious the relationship is... though I do not condone or suggest cheating in any situation EVER, because I prefer at least some degree of honesty in an exclusive relationship (Gonna go fuck somebody else? Let me know so I can pack my bags :)). I'm talking about long-term, marriage grade kind of relationships. Not, "ooh i liek u, let's move in so we can screw all day if we wanna!" and then, "u don't put out no moore so i'm gonna have a meaningless fling." (I do not participate in said relationships, so I wouldn't know the rules or workings of them.)

    I'm not trying to sound condescending. Seriously. I'm learning, here. Just adding my opinions. Take 'em or leave 'em.
     
  7. dark suger

    dark suger Dripping With Sin!

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    it is used because every one wants some
     
  8. dark suger

    dark suger Dripping With Sin!

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    fire fly u r beutifull i dunno if i spelt that right
     
  9. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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  10. Hiram Joseph Yates

    Hiram Joseph Yates Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    You remind me of the hippy chicks of old. Most of these posters are yuppie style hippies, if such is possible. Oh, for the good old days. None of the psycho bullshit threads.
     
  11. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    You mean the hipsters that moan about how perfect they are and scream about how we should save the ::insert cause of the moment:: while looking down their nose at people who aren't vegetarians and eat raw organic produce? Heh. No. I'm not one of those. :tongue:
    I enjoy the old school philosophy (as taught to me by my parents), but I have definitely made it my own. I'll definitely take your post as a compliment, though. :)
     
  12. Born25YearsTooLate

    Born25YearsTooLate Hunting the mighty whifflesnark

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    I agree with you firefly...there's a lot of pretentious crap floating about by people who pretend to care.
     
  13. atla23

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  14. profezzor_x

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    On average I was intimate with each girl about two times. After that, they withheld sex and demanded an exclusive and monogamous relationship... The typical knee jerk reaction from most (not all) money hungry Los Angeles women.
     
  15. Joshconnor22

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    i think it is incredibly sexist 2 think that men will do anything 4 sex like a dog a dog will 4 a treat and also 2 compare men 2 dogs. all men r not like this at all. whether u r M/F u need 2 get ur views of men sorted out.
     
  16. jumbuli55

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    As Shopenhauer would say, anything you need can and will be used as a bargaining chip against you.
    The more you need it - the more it will be turned against you.

    As to origins of dynamics in relationship of men and women, one could reasonably ask why such a basic need as sex is treated as something that men are more in need of than women, while both should be sharing the same need , biologically speaking.
    So, why sex is used as a weapon of war?



    1. First, let's take a look at this amusing article fromTimes magazine:
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1700821,00.html

    2. Not second to mention is the simple fact which is: The need, restrictions, scarcity and what not can do a lot to drive the motivations and behaviors of individuals ( you can study modern science of Marketing and PR where these things are well researched and constantly implemented in the world of business and social relationships).


    I personally think that any intelligent male aware of these near mechanical principles at work can turn tables and use the same rules and principles to his own advantage and make the woman beg for sex while refusing to do so and making her feel so much more desperate to get it.
    The downside of such action against females , of course, is the feeling of vileness one might likely sense if they have any basic , fundamental sense of decensy and fairness.
    But chop off some of your self-destructive compassion and you will find yourself doing well (something that some of those women using sex as a weapon of war practiced for ages).


    The better yet solution, if you are not a super dominant male in the gorilla world and don't wan't to play psy-op games in your individual relationships whith women, is to simply "let it go" and concentrate in your encounters with females on anything but strictly sex.
    This may or may not drive some of them ,under certain circumstances, mad (wounded self esteem and insecurity, spitefully hinting you are gay or outright and openly begging you for sex) , but whatever the outcome may be you know it has nothing to do with your intentions , other than refusing to play their game under their terms.
    Let me also note that it is an option that may or may not work for others.


    To resume, let it be said that finding a sexually attractive woman that is truly close to you as a friend or as a wife ,as a human being above all, is nearly an impossible task (though occasionally it could and does happen too as the most rare exception to the general rule ), and sharing a mutually beneficial sex relationship with such can be very gratifying experience.

    But in absence of such, just refer to the basic rules and mechanisms driving nearly all of the relationships and behaviors in society, and by that I mean be intelligent and use it to your own advantage.
    They say the most fit survives in this world? Well, so be it :)
     
  17. Shale

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    Hey, it worked for me.

    When I was a young man, I realized what a fool I was to go bar hopping, chasing after pussy. I then identified as "El Solo Toro" from a pop Tijuana Brass piece at the time and just abandoned the hunt.

    Soon I found girls interested in me - pursuing me. Maybe they were no longer turned off by the pussy focused mentality that so many young men exude from their whole being.
     
  18. jumbuli55

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    In your case it might have been a natural lack of desire for females and subsequent attraction to males that , by coincidence and as a by-product , "worked for you" in the context of unintentionally drawing females to you.

    What I was talking about is the wilful act of blocking other individual from using your natural, innate desire as a tool against your own interests in interpersonal relationships.
     
  19. Shale

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    No, this was a time that I was still doing women and hadn't dropped out or started doing men yet. It was even before Mrs. R and I started our very het affair.

    It was just a stepping back and asking why I kept running in circles like those silly male pigeons in the park. So I stopped and apparently became more attractive to girls.
     
  20. jumbuli55

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    Well, the basic mechanism governing the dynamics and behavior in interpersonal relationships will remain the same regardless of particulars, simplest formula being:
    need + scarcity = bargaining chip
    Can't come up with any clearer answer to the question posted by OP and that's what I was getting at.
     

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