Why is methamphetamine demonized so much?

Because it can be the worstest. Not to many drugs can be used for a week and actually keep the person up for that long without eating. Meth is bad for you in the way that any drug is bad for you. Know what it is, the risks, and mitigate them.

Ever seen someone who has just not eaten much? Makes meth users look beautiful...


Sleep deprivation causes adverse effects on brain and memory function, growth on different levels, and slows the healing process down significantly.

So, add in those two things, then add something that is a little neurotoxic (alcohol, meth, coke, etc. etc..) and you have an obvious recipe for bad health. I don't like the fact that it is blamed on meth. Its the irresponsible users that make it bad, because it enables them to not sleep or eat. This can be compounded by the fact that dopamine can cause hallucinations when there is too much for too long. This applies to anything that releases dopamine. (Use most drugs for too long and you will see weird stuff)

 

good point, most people commonly think these effects are strictly from the meth and believe it will happen after one use.

 

Its pretty difficult to eat when each time you chew you get reminded of like a bruised muscle inside your mouth from grinding your teeth all night long, possibly biting you're tounge and/or gumming as well.

 

meth addicts don't do other drugs. But they do sleep and eat.
They don't smoke grass, they don't drink. They'll do coke, but they won't spend money on it.
They do narcotics when they get them. Eventually--

If they quit speed they become alchoholics. if they don't quit, well, a speed scene ALWAYS, sooner or later, becomes a heroin scene.

Deny what I say if you like, but the day will come when you'll say "that obnoxious fucker was right!".

 

well yeah of course it gives you temporary anorexia in the same league as adderall, but it only gives psychosis after multiple day binging.

I understand why people don't have the self control to keep themselves from binging on it, but if I get the urge to redose as I trail off from the peak I'll just remind myself that I can either feel twice as shitty from a comedown once that second redose is done, or just ride out the initial comedown with some weed.

honestly I love meth better than MDMA, cause with MDMA the euphoria is not even there at sometimes and I'll make me extremely tired right after but with meth it's a constant energizing, extremely euphoric and highly talkative peak for 2-3 hours railed, and the comedown isn't that bad at all compared to MDMA or adderall.

one good way to enjoy meth without becoming a methhead is to set a STRICT STRICT STRICT schedule for yourself, absolutely no way whatsoever do more than once a week EVER.

 

When I smoked crystal the bruxism and resulting inability to eat for a day was far worse than anything I've experienced from adderall. I also experienced paranoia to a far greater degree than other amphetamines as well but yah I did not get a full blown paranoid psychotic reaction from it.

 

Maybe you can handle it. I can. but I've proven it multiple time over the last 4 decades.
Everybody says what you say-- for awhile. How long you been doing once a week? (weekends?) or is it twice a month?

I've done 3 solid weeks before... but I've also kicked a medically induced narcotic addiction cold turkey with a bag of weed and a Foghat album.

 

Whaaa? I want to totally crawl out of my skin thinking about food on adderall. Meth on the other hand makes me not interested, but I will still try to eat. Then I notice that the food sucks, and I stop eating.

different folks though.

 

Is methamphetamine pretty euphoric? I find it completely lacking in a psychedelic sense compared to MDMA and I don't recall it being anywhere near as euphoric but it definitely was pretty good stimulation and I think I preferred the experience to coke and other amphetamines. I dunno with the discovery of mephedrone Meth really has little appeal to me. How often do you do it cod and mmtg?

 

It's not euphoric.

it's improving-- for a while. i.e., at the right point during usage you can fuck (M or F) ALL night and go to work poppin' it out and earning that promotion.
(please don't ask if this is worth the consquences)

Astronauts use it.
The Lufwaffe used it to conquer Europe. But they kept using it (as did Hitler) and American Pilots on Preludin kicked thier ass and Hitler went paranoid.
See Borrowing energy against the future posted somewhere in the last few days.

But in all fairness, used FOR ocassion and in moderation, meth is a panecea for perfomance.

 

yeah it's not gonna give you that lovey-dovey feeling as much MDMA, but you can definitely feel your brain being smacked with extreme pleasure and satisfaction (much more dopamine / serotonin than MDMA = serotonin / dopamine). Honestly I like that effect better cause unless I'm on a date then MDMA will just make me look like a creep to someone who isn't on it. It's much more easy to act like a normal person on this. Like I said earlier, I will absolutely NEVER do it more than once a week, and as of recently it's been once every two weeks or so.

When I get the feeling like "oh well I could really use a stimulant right now for this siutation" and it's been less than a week since the last time I did it I'll just take some adderall or desoxypipradrol if I must, but generally I don't like trashing my dopamine system into a garbage dump so I prefer to have a few weeks stimulant free each time. I'll be sure to read meth addiction threads / stories on bluelight everyday to keep it as a reminder to not fuck up, as I'm really is playing with fire .

 

All of this nasty talk makes me glad I haven't abused my prescription Adderall in awhile.

 

Meth is demonized so much because it's that bad. I just read a very excellent book on meth called Methland.

Want to see what long term meth addiction does to the mind, read up on the actions of Hitler in his last few years. I mean one could argue that he was always crazy, but he was flat out insane in the end because he was addicted to Meth. Meth was actually a pretty commonly prescribed medication for depression, losing weight, lack of energy, etc. The thing about meth is that it allows people to focus, work, and have energy for long periods of time, which for many is actually beneficial at first. But, the long term effects are pretty nasty, now take into consideration that the perscription meth back then was no where close to as strong as the crystal meth you see on the streets now and the picture becomes a little clearer.

What Meth does is stimulates the CNS very strongly and then floods the brain with dopamine which is the chemical that releases as your body's way of rewarding you for things like eating good food, nowadays fat is bad but from the beggining of time to not that long ago people didn't always have a ready supply of food(some people still don't)so since fat has more energy stored in it eating fatty foods is very good if you for instance don't know when your next meal will be which is why fattening foods seem to taste better, dopamine is also you know what makes sex feel good.

Now as anybody who takes strong stimulants for ADHD or ADD as I do, sometimes, especially if you have used your medicine to stay awake, when the mind becomes tired but is still being stimulated making it unable to rest then you start to lose it a little bit. Meth is much stronger than Adderall or Ritalin, last longer, and is addictive because of the dopamine flood is creates in the brain. If you use Ritalin to stay awake and you don't sleep for more than 24 hours, I have done it multiple times for school, you feel like shit but because of the Dopamine you don't feel like shit because your not sleeping, your not eating much because it's a strong stimulant, and it's addictive so you keep doing it. Eventually just sleep deprivation can fuck your mind up, not to mention the extra strain of a strong stimulant on an unrested mind and this is why people become paranoid and crazy on meth.

Also because it floods your brain with Dopamine by messing with the organ the produces it chronic meth use leads to the brain not producing dopamine. Kind of like how taking testosterone makes your body stop producing it. So even if a meth head gets clean they are most likely to have chronic depression the rest of their life along with alot of other nasty side effects.

Meth makes you crazy when you take it, and chronic use fries your brain. Plus Meth as a CNS stimulant puts the body into fight or flight mode bringing the body down to a more primitive state, so people are more likely to do something that they want to do, that they wouldn't otherwise.

Put it all together and you don't have a pretty picture of Meth

 

yeah hitler did indeed seem to loose all forms of common sense in his last few years.... I always would think "damn loosing the war must've really taken it's toll on him".

meth back in his day woulda been top notch shit though, no reason to cut it.

 

Yeah it would have been good stuff but the stuff later made as Meth became illegal was much stronger than perscription meth, and then again when chemists started making crystal meth instead of powdered meth as it had been it again became much stronger. The stuff around now is rather stronger than the meth of Hitler's days and it doesn't have to deal with the purity.

 

crystal or powder, it's all in the HCL salt... technically you could smoke desoxyn pills if you were desperate enough.

 

I dunno. Thats if you find good meth.

Meth is VERY euphoric though. Smooth euphoria too, not up and down so fast like every other drug I have used. 2c-i has actually produced the best euphoria for me as of yet. Meph, meth, butylone/mdma are the followers.

 

have you done ecstasy pills codmouse?

 

do you smoke it or snort it, and also do you redose usually?

I haven't attempted to smoke it, mostly because I imagine it'd get very fiendy with that method, although the high is supposed to be much more relaxed than the nasal route.

 

Yep, only had one roll that was ever good though. I have used molly of good quality a few times before, along with MDA in pure(r) form too.

I do both. If I don't want to be up all night then I will smoke it to just chill with buds for the night, then come home and crash after like 2-3 hours. If I am using it for like a day or to get through work I will snort it.

I actually like swallowing it though. Lasts wwaaaayyy longer, and has a more steady effect. I would do something like this if I want to stay up at a bar, for new years, or to get homework or housework done. I don't use meth often though. Sure helps with sleepy people like me

Smoking it is good, if you are looking for strong euphoria that gives you goose bumps all over. I don't fiend much for any drug. But I would say that snorting it is the most "fun" and probable for abuse.

I tried injecting it like 3 times and thats lame. Not a whole lot better than smoking it, and it causes a bunch more negative effects.