Why is mescaline so scarce?

Yea dude I don't know wtf they're talking about either. A poster mentioned something about trees, with flowers and yellow sap... sounds nothing like any mescaline bearing cactus, considering a tree is a tree and a cactus is a cactus lol. www.peyote.org if you guys want to learn about peyote. Mescaline is the main active alkaloid in peyote. Mescaline is a psychedelic with low potency (you need pretty high dosages to get to the same level you can with lower dosages of other chemicals). Peyote has a long history as a sacrament.

I call it a cactus juice experience. IDK, Although mescaline is the main ingredient that sends you to the zone, there are other things in there too. When someone says a mescaline experience, I think about eating like 500 or so milligrams of mescaline, not drinking a slimy green juice.

Once other people start to understand this, maybe there won't be so many retards trying to sell me microdots as mescaline in the lot.

 

LOL @ mescaline microdots.

ive been offered mescaline blotter and 2c-i as mescaline.

Oh well, for now ill stick to cactus.
BTW instead of drinking cactus slime i suggest you try the dried skins of peruvian torch. they work like a charm.

 

Yea I was thinking about it, tried peyote this weekend. It was cool, nothing too too crazy, wish there was more at the time.

 

2ce's just FYI I'm in MA also, came across this thread and thought I'd put in my 2cents.. Unless you're sure of what you ate, I'd say you didn't actually have dried powedered peyote and it was actually a concoction a buddy of mine has been passing around against my will... he's raping people on cost, and not giving them a good experience...

what it actually is, San Pedro that has been broken down by hot bath 3-4 times, then the substrate liquid that has been taken from the pulp/cactus remains is left to dry in open air... its color is brown/green or black and is clumpy because its been broken up well... eating a damn good ammount of it will get you there, but doesn't produce the same effects of peyote, since the other alkaloids that peyote contains to produce a very original experience aren't there. The powder definitely contains mescalin, and each hit he's been selling contains approximately 325mg, along with some other dried up alkaloids that only the trichocereus pachanoi contains...

The reason I'm opening my mouth is, I am the one who showed him how to do this, gave him the idea of marketing it... but wasn't serious...

if you did truly get peyote in MA, lets hook up, because I'm tired of having to travel to AZ or the surrounding areas to enjoy that little sacrement...

as for the questions of LSD earlier in this forum.. My guess is that what you are actually getting is an LSA that has been extracted from either Morning Glories or Hawaiian baby woodrose, both an excellent high... but nothing compares to the original with the exception of eating a bunch of ergot fungus and dealing with potentially losing limbs from gangreen (spelling?)

As for the LSA it can be extracted from seeds and broken down to coat paper to resemble the old blotter acid we've all tried... or it can be broken down less and stuffed in capsules for a "GELCAP" acid... I've used just about every form of every hallucinogen, and are more than happy to help with any questions anyone might have if they're looking for a cheap way to get a legal high...

another poster mentioned that eating san pedro or peruvian torch bothered their stumach, this is most likely from consuming the skin of the dried cactus.. the skin contains some nasty chemicals that you should try not to eat, it will only give you a stumach ache.. try getting the tissue directly under the skin, without any of the skin attached, a successful yield will give you a semi-synthetic mescaline high without the nausea...

earlier I believe someone said that using legal highs isn't sufficient, or something along those lines... however I'd like to add that if you've got the patience and a steady hand, you can simulate any of the great illegal drugs with minimal side effects.

with the exception of MDMA I've been able to re-create just about every recreational drug without too much effort... IF YOU LIKE VISUALS TRY DMT!!!!

if you're in Massachusetts and wanna get some local ideas, let me know

 

Did not get peyote in MA. Psychedelics are not popular in my area. I doubt your friend would be able to pull something like that off with me around lol, no offense, and anyways I'd call bullshit if I ever even heard people in my area saying they can get peyote on the regular. It's pretty hard to acquire. Only been offered twice, first time was tea from this middle aged white guy who looked straight out of some suburbs. Was fucked up.

 

Mescaline is hard to get because of a few factors. Other have listed a few.
But two big reasons I didn't see were these:
1. 85% of "mescaline" sold on the market is not actually mescaline in the US. Just like acid in the US most of it is not real. You genrally get LSH instead of LSD, so it lost a lot of popularity. You genrally get an LSH based drug instead of Mescalin so it lost a lot of street value.
2. It is not just a "oh what the fuck drug". Mescaline is an increddibly intense and different physchoactive. I suggest reading Aldous Huxley's writings and some others on the drug to understand more.

 

I have seen some synth mescaline around made from vanillin. TMA-2 is pretty close also easy to synth...you can acid/base from San Pedro to get the real shit if you want......or join that church in New Mew Mexico..good luck with that one!!

 

Never heard of LSH. Do you mean LSA? If so, that is pretty much a myth that LSA gets passed off as LSD all over the place. Mescaline isn't incredibly intense, in my experience the visuals don't really get intricate, mostly just color stuff. Now I'm not going to like be a total asshole or anything, but it sounds like you just repeated some stuff your friends told you without actually knowing if it was true.

 

I took some when I was in Spain. I took 600mg. I don't think your being an ashole at all. And I did mean LSA, I don't know why I was saying LSH. And I did get my acid information from friends, but these guys lived and were dealers in the 60's so I tend to believe them. But all three of them have taken enough drugs to seriously impair their brains- so you maybe right that the LSA thing is a myth.

 

Ahhh I c. You must have had fun on 600 mg. Have you tried acid before?

 

Well, if he hasn't, I sure as fuck have, and there just ain't NO WAY to duplicate that experience with HBWR or MG seeds. If there were a way, I would've figured it out long ago, not that I spent 12 years or so in chem labs or anything, or worked for a big oil company's R&D division doing shit with chemistry. Nope, wasn't me.

 

im just surprised that that the RC market recently hasnt caused a huge upsurge in other chemicals to be passed off as mescaline. 2C-E mixed with 2C-C seems a likely candidate- it would give nausea, dreamy state from the 2C-C, and energy form the 2C-E. And compared to the LSD microdots used now that would be a lot less rare, and would come closer to replicating the mescaline experience.

 

Yea I can't believe people still try passing dots off as mescaline, lol. Mescaline is supposedly one of the hardest synths to perform, on top of low yield. Best quote ever bonnaroo 05 from some shithead "all mescaline comes in microdots."

 

Yeah in that article about Pickard in the LSD forum. It says something along the lines of Mescaline is one of the hardest synths to preform, and the chemistry people that do peform it is kinda like showing off.

 

that's what propranolol is for

 

uhh, no it's not.

phenethylamines such as mescaline are actually quite simple to synth, starting from styrene or trimethyl-benzylalcohol; yield is 75% if the latter is used, and that's a very simple synth (only problem is you work with LAH, NaCN, and ether).

and a lot of what is going around as acid is more than likely AL-LAD

 

mescaline and lsd don't have much demand. shrooms are much easier and cheaper to produce. Ecstasy has more pleasant effects to most people. People who do mescaline are more likely only to do it a few times, vs. E, which someone may do regularly. Someone should start making and distributing mesc and lsd...it would be doing humanity a favor...

 

As I said earlier, someone must be I saw to doses 2 summers ago, and they were the real deal.

 

Hey I guess shulgin must be wrong too then because I am pretty sure I read him say the same thing as that article says. But hey maybe you're one of those few that can actually pull it off.

 

"and a lot of what is going around as acid is more than likely AL-LAD"

No, it isn't.

There was supposedly a little last summer, but it's been completely unverified. Stupid to make such claims without gc/ms analysis, and contribute to the factless "there is no more LSD these days" conspiracy.

However, we might be seeing a bit more of it in the near future.