Why is mescaline so scarce?

Did you do a total weight of the bag by any chance? Were they fresh or dried?

 

I think so, I've seen suppliers of peyote who ship to canada, so I think so. Double check through some googling.

 

Peyote is NOT legal in Canada...however, it's not quite illegal either... definately a grey area. You can purchase peyote cacti at particular places, living cacti that is... but once you harvest the button, it becomes illegal. The only way it's completely legal is if you're Native American and even then, you can't share it or sell it. Probably the reason that you see that companies will ship peyote to Canada is for the use by Natives. In particular the Church of Native Americans claims it as a sacrament. There was a case a little while ago that i'm pretty sure took place in Canada... a father wanted to make his son take a peyote trip but the son didn't want to... the son was under 18 (i think he like 12 or 13 or something) and it actually went to court...not because of the fathers use of peyote but for the father forcing his son to take it. Needless to say, the family was Native American.
Somebody please correct me if i'm wrong on this.

 

Mescaline is illegal in Canada (obviously).

Peyote is specifically declared legal, though. Like earthfluff said, this is void upon the harvesting or in any way preparing of a button.

From what I've heard the actual plant was made legal during Canada's drug legislation peroid because of the aspects of ritual use. Native Americans made a good case for it, and in order to prevent future laws protecting it's usage, the specific plant was legalized from the start. In the eyes of the law, an overturn of peyote for ritualistic use down the line could result in attempts to make other things like cannabis and mushrooms legal for the purposes of belief.

 

O i c. Sort of like how mushrooms used to be legal in the UK til they were prepared. Then they passed that law, sucks for them.

 

a few friends and i are lookin into mesc and we found directions from a reliable source on how to synth it but we dont know where to get the ingrediants. and we are in no way looking to turn profit... were all communists here and hate the idea as it is. we are looking for a good trip.

any tips?

we are outside of chicago and have found no where to get any cacti from so we are left to this option.

peace,
Sarkaz

edit: what can one do to improve a trip? any activities one could partake in. we love to chill to music and sometimes play video games. or there is always "lets see who can actually pick up the chain mail vest now" game (long story) or there is the lets listen to the STS play the guitar (good god) or the "your friend who just left called and said he is getting attacked by zombies" (the guy who left was clean and trying to fuck with us and the STS and the other guy with me was freakin out, but as it is i dont get stirred up easily even when im straight so i was all like awwwww music)

sorry rabbled on a bit... but any tips on this too?

 

I assume by synth you mean extract?

 

no i mean by syth as to sythisise or a synthetic. not natural

 

By "ingredients" what exactly do you mean? Precursors?

 

HERE IS THE SYNTHESIS: A solution of 20 g 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde, 40 mL nitromethane, and 20 mL cyclohexylamine in 200 mL of acetic acid was heated on the steam bath for 1 h. The reaction mixture was then diluted slowly and with good stirring, with 400 mL H2O, which allowed the formation of a heavy yellow crystalline mass. This was removed by filtration, washed with H2O, and sucked as dry as possible. Recrystallization from boiling MeOH (15 mL/g) yielded, after filtration and air drying, beta-nitro-3,4,5-trimethoxystyrene as bright yellow crystals weighing 18.5 g. An alternate synthesis was effective, using an excess of nitromethane as solvent as well as reagent, if the amount of ammonium acetate catalysis was kept small. A solution of 20 g 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde in 40 mL nitromethane containing 1 g anhydrous ammonium acetate was heated on the steam bath for 4 h. The solvent was stripped under vacuum and the residual yellow oil was dissolved in two volumes of hot MeOH, decanted from some insolubles, and allowed to cool. The crystals formed are removed by filtration, washed with MeOH and air dried yielding 14.2 g. of bright yellow crystals of beta-nitro-3,4,5-trimethoxystyrene. The use of these proportions but with 3.5 g ammonium acetate gave extensive side-reaction products even when worked up after only 1.5 h heating. The yield of nitrostyrene was, in this latter case, unsatisfactory.

To a gently refluxing suspension of 2 g LAH in 200 mL Et2O, there was added 2.4 g beta-nitro-3,4,5-trimethoxystyrene as a saturated Et2O solution by use of a Soxhlet extraction condenser modified to allow the continuous return of condensed solvent through the thimble. After the addition was complete, the refluxing conditions were maintained for another 48 h. After cooling the reaction mixture, a total of 150 mL of 1.5 N H2SO4 was cautiously added, destroying the excess hydride and ultimately providing two clear phases. These were separated, and the aqueous phase was washed once with 50 mL Et2O. There was then added 50 g potassium sodium tartrate, followed by sufficient NaOH to bring the pH >9. This was then extracted with 3x75 mL CH2Cl2, and the solvent from the pooled extracts was removed under vacuum. The residue was distilled at 120-130 °C at 0.3 mm/Hg giving a white oil that was dissolved in 10 mL IPA and neutralized with concentrated HCl. The white crystals that formed were diluted with 25 mL Et2O, removed by filtration, and air dried to provide 2.1 g 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine hydrochloride (M) as glistening white crystals. The sulfate salt formed spectacular crystals from water, but had a broad and uncharacteristic mp. An alternate synthesis can employ 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenylacetonitrile, as described under beta-D. (http://www.mescaline.com/synth/)

if i am breaking any foum rules by posting this please let me know and i will remove it ASAP.

 

Yeah so I definetly don't feel like reading all that shit....too much. A good place to get mescaline, The Rainbow Gathering, every summer in West Virginia. Do not go with money to buy drugs, go with things to trade. Bartering is the main source of anything while you are there. Because of the Rainbow Gathering I tripped for my first time off mescaline and had my first salvia. I know it is a long ways off time-wise and location-wise for a lot of you people but I know tons of people willing to make the trip. You can find any kind of bud, peyote, mescaline, lsd, mushrooms, pretty much anythign except there isn't too much hard stuff (meth, crack, heroine). My first and only mescaline trip was the best day of my life. When I first started feeling it I was laughing my ass off like you are real dosed up on LSD or smoked a ton of weed. But after that it got mellow and the visualizations sneak up on you. Man I can't even remember most of the things that went through my head during that trip but I concur with Huxley's title of the doors of perception. My suggestion.....make sure the night is going to be slightly cloudy where the stars are out and a little bit of clouds and get someone to push you constantly while you sit on a merry-go-round staring up. I'm telling you.....it is so good.

 

Did the mesc come in a big fat pill?

 

no the original post SAID NOTHING ABOUT SYNTHETIC MESCALINE . wish in that case it would not be. The native american indians in the far dry west could grow it and sell it but the plants have small yield . = The main reason you dont see it. as far police goes the feds would have a tough time controling people who allready dislike them. and 3 more profit is in indian casinos and ciggarrets than the dope . "since is not like pot were tons can be grow.

 

if you were lucky to find any "indians tribes in our deep west" it would be a powder right off the plant .

 

Mescaline is not scarce.One may find a legal source at your local nursery.
The sacred San Pedro cactus also known as trichocereus pachanoi. There are however 10 other trichocereus cacti species that contain mescaline in useable amounts sufficient enough for a estatic journey.A plant of about 18 inches will run you around 15 dollars and is sufficent for three to four journeys.Or one or two strong experiences.
this is the real thing im sure the feds dont want this at your local nursery.

 

Sorry I guess I should have said synthetic or extracted mescaline by itself, not cactus, cactus juice or shit like that. It's pretty implicit that's what the original poster meant, eating a foot long piece of cactus isn't most people's idea of having a mescaline experience... idk whatever.

 

IM NOT A EXPERT either but the drug comes from the flower i think not the tree juices . and looks like a yelllow pollen from a flower but here i could be wrong.

 

I'm not sure exactly what you mean.. are you talking about mescaline from cacti?

 

you are correct, and that's why it is scarce, you need a lot of buds to trip properly/sufficiently and they take a long while to grow, in the UK they are generally small plants they sell that take years to get big enough to produce enough buds/balls/whatever you want to call them. I think maybe you can eat the cactus, but that is only a rumour/comment I vaguely recall sometime ago by a person I can't remember in place I also can't remember so........ I am not sure how potent it is, give me a large cactus and I'll eat for you and find out. The blender and a lot of water should do the trick.

 

i dunno what flowers you guys are talking about.
peyote cacti take a long time to mature. maybe you are thinking of that.

and i do consider eating cactus slime a mescaline experience. what would you call it?

synthetic mescaline is not common because, as was stated earlier, the doses are high therefor you dont make too much money off of it.