Why is knowledge evil ?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Styve--At-Large, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Lostthoughts

    Lostthoughts Thostloughts

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    Ok, the church still hates the theory of evolution, medical marijuana, (I'm sure there are other examples.)

    but you're right, one church does have a bigger history of that, probably because they're more powerful and have been around for longer. But what church it was is beside the point, the rumor that science and relgion are at war is still believed by a lot of Christians. (they arnt all from the same church)

    I think that when religious leaders see something that chalenges their faith, they're alarmed, and tell people not to even aknowlege it exists. (some recent examples, my baptist church told it's members that they were NOT to see the davinci code or paranormal activity. That's not science, but it's the same concept.). Only to find out years later that they were wrong, and that their faith was not realy Hurt becuase of it.

    Edit: And I'm not condeming anyone, orginized religion can be a great tool, but I'm sure you agree that everything your church says can not be taken as truth. If you have reason to question it, line it up with the bible. So while the church can be good, you can't trust it.
     
  2. Lostthoughts

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    Jesus condemed the pharasies several times for teaching falsley. I think we're allowed to do the same.

    So I'm condemning you for your false teachings about codemning people.
    :)
     
  3. def zeppelin

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    My fav :D
    It's like what Audioslave once said; 'Someone give me a priest to put my mind to bed'. So many want to teach, but so few want to see for themselves.
    This is so true. Those tasty cookies being turned into poison :( Good thing a good batch is always kept. :cool:
     
  4. scratcho

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    I think the suppression of knowledge was/is done for,if not evil,for control purposes. Is the earth still flat?
     
  5. thedope

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    Actually, he described them. Jesus condemned no one, he exposed hypocrisy or pointed out the truth.
     
  6. thedope

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    Knowledge is not suppressed but is made obscure by the cultivation of belief.
     
  7. thedope

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    Fresh and preserved are not the same thing.
     
  8. thedope

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    Is your problem with the teachings or with lazy insincere people?
     
  9. def zeppelin

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    Yeah, I worded that wrong. I'll go back and change it.
     
  10. onesublimesister

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    Hmmm did Jesus TELL you that you could condemn? That's where the Bible ends and man takes over. Badly. Just because Jesus condemns doesn't mean that we're supposed to. I'd rather embrace and learn NOT to condemn. Because, alas, when you decide to condemn, you are truly just judging, which we ALL know isn't really our job. If you feel the need to condemn someone, then you're probably just overlooking the fact that they could use a little help or guidance.

    But thanks for pointing out my poor teachings. :p I hate it when people spew out a bunch of false crap so I don't wanna be one of them.
     
  11. ChronicTom

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    Really??? Who are the four horsemen coming for? Surely not those who aren't condemned???
     
  12. onesublimesister

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    With both, actually. The lazy person for not trying to find the truth. The one in power for taking advantage of the lazies' complacency.
     
  13. onesublimesister

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    You're missing my point. WE aren't the ones who are supposed to do the condemning. That's not our job. It's God's, and soooooo many people have taken it upon themselves to do his job for him. The horsemen will come for the people that God chose. Not the ones that you or I condemn.
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    Really? I do believe what the bible says (the word of god) is "judge not lest thee be judged"... not "Do not judge, that's my job"...

    Of course I could be wrong...
     
  15. onesublimesister

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    "judge not lest thee be judged" Is this not saying "Do not judge? If you do, you'll be judged." That seems to tell me that I shouldn't be judging/condemning, and to leave it to God if it even needs doing at all.
     
  16. thedope

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    The one in power is not asserting the truth, the teaching, but is teaching deception.
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    It is not saying, "do not judge", it is saying, "if you judge, you will be judged"...

    Are we not all going to be judged anyway?
     
  18. onesublimesister

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    I get that. My mom said, "If you put your hand on that stove, you'll get burned." She doesn't SAY "Don't put your hand on the stove." But, the warning of consequence tells me not to.

    So, yes, if you look more deeply at it, it does sort of read "do not judge" because there are consequences to doing so.
     
  19. ChronicTom

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    lol, there are consequences to every single thing we do... being warned about them ahead of time doesn't change anything.

    As for looking more deeply... if I look deeply enough, I can show you evidence that Hitler was acting on the word of god.

    Remember, we aren't talking about your mother (or anyones for that matter) we are talking about an infallible god. If he meant DONT JUDGE, why would he have not said that? He didn't... what he said was don't do it unless you want it to be done to you... and then in another spot said, I am going to judge you.

    So for it to be a fair analogy to our mothers, it would be, "Don't put your hand on that stove, for you will be burnt" and then a few chapters later saying, "Give me thy hand, I am going to put it on the stove"

    To which I say, if you are going to do it to me anyway, I might as well do it myself....
     
  20. thedope

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    We were judged in the beginning, God created man according to his own likeness and saw that it was good very good.
    The judgment that wakes the dead is our last or final judgment.
     
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