No, you simply ignored the myriad of circumstances which it wasn't possible to dig yourself out of the situation because they weren't convenient to your argument. Which I believe is, these people shouldn't be homeless because I got off the streets, and should be killed on the streets.
One time I was walking down Calle Princesa in Madrid and there was a little girl begging sitting on the sidewalk. She was about 6. I gave her 200 ptas ($1.40) which is way more than I ever had given a beggar. If I give, I'll usually give 20 30 cents or so, few coins from my pocket.. But I felt so bad afterward cause I should have asked her if I could buy her some food or something. She probably stays with someone who is alcoholic/addict, molests her, and beats her and so on. I still think about that poor little girl, and it kills me. Today there was a bum sleeping on a bench infront of the church. Him, sorry, don't care.
I think that everyone went about this topic entirely wrong.... I could have been a nice open discussion, but it ended up more everyone attacking Luna. I apologize if that is how you felt =P I know that on more than one occasion, my bursts of 'hate' wording ended in a flame fest only because I worded everything wrong..for instance, I once said on here that 'I hate feminists' and that isn't the case. It is really that I think we should celebrate the differences in men and women, but with the way that I worded it, it was just no good. You know what I mean? But in the heat of the moment sometimes It is very hard to word things right..I can dig where you are coming from =D
okay, well I didn't mean to ignore anybody. I may have missed something. What exactly do you feel I ignored. I'd like to hear it to at least know how you feel about the subject.
well thanks, thats all I ask. I don't EVER expect anyone to agree with me. Most people usually never do and thats fine. All I ever ask is that someone try to see it from my POV or at least listen to what I'm saying.
When someone is out of prison, they often become homeless because jobs are allowed to screen employees. They often have to live on the streets right away, and their aren't always jobs in these areas for people without permanent addresses. The economies bad right now. In many parts of the country, their (homeless ex cons) are having to compete with college graduates. So they resort to dealing again. Sometimes people are just struggling to get on their feet and do need a bite to eat in the mean time. Sometimes they are permanent addicts and you are just giving them a fix. And sometimes they are mentally ill, with nobody to give them aid. There isn't an option for them. They can't get jobs. But it isn't your right to decide what their worth because you lived with a drug addict and became homeless.
dont ever apologize for me......the op was not even close to a nice open beginning of a discussion....who the f*ck are you kidding...what op did you read
Sarah, when I read your first post I was thinking, "Oh, Sarah, stop, leave em alone." Then I read this post and you kinda said that about bursts of hate and not thinking and the implications and I gotta agree with you. I've said some things on here, either because I was drunk or the forums give a feeling of anonymity or whatever, that later I was like, "Oh, ahh, sorry I said that, mate" In all I kinda gotta agree with Luna. I don't think that I hate the homeless but there needs to be something done, and I almost never give to them because they need to get help through the proper channels; the charities and the churches and the mental wards, etc. I did look at the guy that I said I saw sleeping outside the church and I though, "fucking bum." He's always just hanging around outside the 7 11 across the street from the church, but surprisingly, he doesn't beg. Odd.
That was recently... When I was 17 I left home and was living where I could for a while. How are you going to tell me I wasn't homeless? Just because I had a place to sleep doesn't mean I wasn't homeless. I've been in those situations a few times in my life, it doesn't mean you're worthless. Those aren't just homeless people, those are beggers, and half of them aren't even fucking homeless.... some of them pretend to be homeless for pitty handout, I know... I had a sister who used to be a crack head, she used to do it.
You didn't say anything new or interesting with this thread. You are just repeating ignorant generalizations.
Yes, I agree. But...If they really wanted to make it, and at least give themselves a shot they'd stay away from drugs and booze. I do understand what you're saying though. BTW I wasn't living with a drug addict, I was the drug addict
Ohhh, we're starting to get heated here. LOL, I don't think Sarah meant to apologize for you. Yes, Luna was far from nice in the OP, but when Sarah said "I'm sorry if that is what you thought" I don't think she meant YOU. Sarah, comments?
the proper channels...what a fuckin joke...its not your problem right.....let the proper channels handle 'them'....un fucking believable
Well now, I surely do not remember saying 'I apologize for ROLLINGALONG, and everyone else on this forum'. Nope, don't remember saying that. I do, remember saying something along the lines of 'I apologize', meaning me, If I had contributed for her feeling attacked (which I'm assuming she felt...also assuming its a 'SHE'..sorry If I'm wrong. Lord knows I would have felt attacked) I like talking. I like sharing ideas. I feel the best way to do this is to keep it respectful..if you give respect, you always get it. Well, mostly.
Sure created an interesting conversation, though. And he got some steam off his chest. Sometimes it's nice to rant, and what's wrong with that?