Why I don't argue/debate Christians anymore

yes i forgot there are only 6 billion right NOW! how about over the history where poverty caused by some neoclassical ideology has caused. I may have over exagerrated, but hey i don't act like i know it all in your all loving christian way. So you support Bush because of some things but don't take in all the bad things he has done for liberty and actual murder!! what... its the same as the Bible, you only tend to quote the good stuff and ignore the murders in there. since i came on this site I have been interested in christianity, and really have been in it, but its people such as yourself who really do not have the love of God, you have the arragance of God.

I think you have convinced yourself you are doing good by spreading this message but you are making more people turn against christianity, i have met christians who have made me feel like i wanted to be part of it, but you put me off, and if i was a christian i would be embarrassed of your view and how you come across, i apologize for being like this, but come on learn to love God not convince others they are going to hell, and keep on at a phrophesy because noone else has ever had prophesies
sorry peacex

 

A time for peace in who's country? Yours? Mine? As long as it does not affect you? What about Iraq before America intrevined? Was it a peaceful place to live... would you want to live there under the control of Saddam? Look at the big picture. 2000 soldiers fighting for freedom or Saddam Hussein wiping out generations of people...

About 40 million died during WW2, why didn't pull out of that war... man our culture has changed.

 

can't you see the even bigger picture, this war was not about freedom, please don't say you brought that please. this war was about oil, power and the american empire. WW2 had reasons for the war to begin. war is without morality always

 

Sera this is getting old. The Gate was a funtioning Gate, only God knew when the Gate would be sealed. It was a Gate and so it was opened many times, the Bible stated that one day it would be closed forever and remain so until the Prince to come would opened it. The Gate has now been closed for hundreds of years. The Bible stated that the Gate will be opened when the Prince to come opens it. The second Coming of Christ is not far off. In the Old Testament it states that the Reserection will take place in Gods third day. Gods third Day will be around 2034. The New Testament indicates that the Generation that sees Israel become a nation will see all the prophecies fulfilled. Israel became a nation in 1948. So if you were born in that year, by the time you reached God's third day spoken of in the Old Testament you would be 86 years old. What is interesting, is even though we have two time references from two different Books of the Bible that were written during two different time periods, they converge at the same time. It is because of Christ near return, that the Gate can no longer be opened. And another indication of this is the fact that the Jews are once again in Israel and have recaptured Jerusalem. The Bible states that once they return to the land they will never be driven out again.
The Old gate Sera was a building and still is a building, but buried and intacked, it was never destroyed. Sera, the Old Gate is still there, and the newer Gate was the addition to that building. And I was just reading about porches built on flat roofs, so your front porch arguement does not hold water. And I did not change the interpitation of my prophecy. The sealing of the Gate and the timing of that sealing was never mentioned in the Scriptures.
The only thing I was not sure of is when the Gate was actually closed, and that was because of different historical reports that I have read. Yet, this has nothing to do with the prophecy. The prophecy simply states the Gate will be finally sealed. That's it Sera. Sera, if you think this prophecy is falling apart, it is only doing so in your own mind. The prophecy is pretty obvious that it will not be the orginal Gate that the Prince to come will walk through, but it will be the sealed addition to that Gate. Or the porch to that Gate. And Sera, it is not just me saying this, many Jews and Christians know all about this prophecy. Many men who have a better grip on scripture than I see this prophecy and understand it. The only one's who oppose it, are the one's who don't want to believe it. Yet if you read the prophecy, there is little there that can be pointed to that would show it to be an obvious error.

 

I am not sure how the gas prices are out by you, but they are the best over here. Infact, in the past month they have been at record highs. I am still waiting for that Oil that we getting...

Keep in mind the best defense is the greatest offense.

 

Campbell,

Don't worry about Sera. People will go to great heights to try to prove Christiananity wrong just so they do not have to be under God's authority. But they are just fooling themselves.

 

that to me has to be the most un-christian thing i have heard. what type of God do you so called love, see i am sad now.... if you are a real christian then it is one evil religion

 

maybe you get different news in the US, but here i don't think we get many people who don't know the war was about oil, it is pretty obvious to see

 

Dude... it was sarcasm... If we had an abudance of oil... why would our gas prices be at all-time highs?

THE WAR IS NOT OVER OIL PERIOD

 

JDFU...You're saying that Christanity the only faith in which people have to surrender their will to that of God or a higher spiritual authority. I think you're dead wrong on that one.

 

No, we don't need to prove somethign wrong that is wrong. You must prove it right.
I fear no god's authority, only the stupidity and rituals of those who think they act on his behalf.

War is not for oil? Lol. I'm going to post this before I start drawing on stereotypes.

God sent you to entertain us, this is true.

 

do you not understand the politics of the US, oil is runnin out, well economic friendly oil anyway, you may believe your media, but many americans and the rest of this planet understand what Iraq was over, it was about money, oil and power full stop. Tell me what the war was for then? and please do not say freedom and democracy otherwise American should be in a lot more countries around the world who laso have problems. but wait those nations do not have huge oil reserves .

Serious look at your moral christian president and understand what is going on
peacex

 

also this was the quote i meant for one of the most un-christian things i have heard. what is wrong with you? what type of christian are you, a violent one whoo preaches yet doesn't act in a Jesus-type way. If you are right about Christianity then i'm afraid to say that both God and Jesus are probably disappointed in the way you come across and things you say, why not try spreading love to advertise your relgion and not being a hypocrite
peacex

 

I am not saying that it is the only faith in which one has to surrender "their will" but rather it is the only faith that is true.

 

Believe my media? If I believe my media, I would be believing you...

In a nutshell, we went to the Iraq war because Saddam supported terriosts.

 

First of all God used war in the OT.

Second of all, in regards to the statement "A good offense is the best defense"

Don't you understand? Perhaps if we attacked first maybe we wouldn't have a memorial at pearl harbor or a memorial in NYC or thousands that died on those days. That should have been the biggest lesson learned from pearl harbor and 9/11. Attack first before we attacked. But you would rather have terrorist groups build and get stronger so we can have another 9/11 and if we fight back... You will be the first to cry about the war saying it is unjust... Let's keep working to make America weaker... Someday you will see how weak America really is as it states in the Jeremiah 50 & 51 and Revelation 18.

 

The question is who's battle are you fighting?

Most of what you say goes agaisnt God's word... So you aren't fighting the God of the Bible's battle...

 

first off, it is well established that Saddam had no connection with terrorist, especially Al Quada, or did you forget to read that part of the news, or did you just believe your leader. In a nutshell you are wrong. Adnd also i am not the media? what did that mean? I am not even from the US

 

oh right so you are one of these people who thinks that if the US attacked the rest of the world first, 911 would not have happened let alone the thousands killed across the word, i thought they were humans too unless i was mistaken- more hypocrosy.

You truely are a lovely person with the LOVE of God are'nt you, jeez

edit- God used war, are you God, do you have his "authority"

 

Never said that we should attack all of the world... only were there is a threat. If we were to attack alqaeda first and dismantle their operations would there have been a 9/11?

I never said that I had God's authority to go to war... I was just giving an example.