Why I believe in God...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by JesusDiedForU, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    Quote from jdfu-
    Where as all other relgions eternal life is earned by works.

    sooo....

    you are saying that christiany is the only religion that is based on faith and not works? maybe you outta dive a little bit deeper into your studies... because i can think of at least three that dont require works but soul.
     
  2. olhippie54

    olhippie54 Touch Of Grey Lifetime Supporter

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    Faith without works is dead.
     
  3. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    Olhippie I love you! :p
     
  4. interval_illusion

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    exactly, marc...

    that was pretty much my point. :)
     
  5. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    What 3 religions tell you that you can enter heaven WO works? (besides Christianity)
     
  6. Agent MoNkEy 0017

    Agent MoNkEy 0017 Member

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    why i beleive in God:

    because i can. because theres no other explanation. so because i can go kill people there is no other explanation? or because i can create my own religion tomorrow, there is no other explanation?

    because theres no other explanation to why things are. i didnt mean why people do things, thats there own doing. go kill someone...have fun. thats youre doing. i ment the world...anything, the big bang theory doesnt make sense to me. (JUST MY OPINION OF COURSE)


    a lot of history is based upon that written in the bible. why is there an AD and BC? why is there an earth to begin with? why are we who we are today?why is there ad and bc?- you gotta be kidding me! why is there an earth to begin with.... well, you think christianity is the only answer to that question? let's look at science which gives a LOGICAL, TESTED answer for that.... or even use your spiritual self combined with that ( i know i do).... and why are we who we are today?- see previous answer
    like i said science doesnt make sense to me

    i dont trust science. i had to turn somewhere. you dont trust science so you have to turn some where. funny... i grew up in a christian home and i dont trust christiany or religion in a whole, so i did the opposite, i turned to science. it's much more logical. i still have spirituality but it's not based in a religion that has no prove and a "God" that is gonna send me to hell because i dont believe in what i cant see[/QUOTE] trusting science, in other words. evolution...i dont beleive we evolved from any species anyone tries to tell me. thats just how i am.
    the bible makes much more sense to me. how we're the smartest beings on earth. we dont act on instinct and we have the ability to think about what we do besides just doing it. why? because i beleive we were created in Gods image as i was taught.
     
  7. JesusDiedForU

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    There is proof but you have to seek it to find it:


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    Above, left, photo taken of a gilded chariot wheel that remains on the sea floor. It was found by Ron Wyatt using a molecular frequency generator from his boat above, after he set the equipment to search for gold. The Bible said all the chariots of Egypt and 600 choice chariots, or gold veneered models, were in the army pursuing God's people. It is speculated there were 20,000 chariots destroyed that day. Above, right, is a drawing of a four spoke chariot found in an Egyptian tomb from the same time period. Four and six spoke wheels are found here in the gulf, and were only used at the same time during the 18th dynasty or 1400 BC when the exodus took place. There are numerous chariot wheels, plus human and horse bones at the crossing site.
     
  8. jerry420

    jerry420 Doctor of everything Lifetime Supporter

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    heresay and conjecture,
    thats what most of the bible is.
     
  9. interval_illusion

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    well, first of all.. the three religions arent exactly RELIGIONS in a sense that they create wars and support fundamentalism... but ill give you two examples of many, daoism and buddism....


    second..you dont trust science because of evolution and because and consequentially dont think we came from another species...

    just to let you know something that you may not know about evolution... no one is saying that we were once apes... just that apes and humans came from a common ancestor. there are a lot of similarities between other primates and humans... to ignore scientific proof is just ridiculous.

    this might come as a surprize to you, but i love jesus and i follow him. i dont follow christianity but i feel that they church has messed up many things ( i wont get into that now cause i could write a book and im getting tired)...

    but there are ways to incorportate christianity and science together without saying "i dont trust or believe science" (when science makes a lot more sense).... faith and science are two different things and where in the bible does it describe what humans were like back then?
     
  10. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ~John 1:1

    Sorry I couldn't help myself. ;) :p
     
  11. Agent MoNkEy 0017

    Agent MoNkEy 0017 Member

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    i dont find it hard to beleive you love jesus. many people do that dont think the same things i do or that other people do, but i dont think that makes it hard to beleive that anyone can have their own opinions.

    i can say too i agree with you with the messing things up. (not necassaraly church) but people who do follow christianity.

    i think people who go to deep and try to defend their christianity with not excepting other peoples opinions (which i may have done just now, but i didnt mean to in such a harsh way if i did...? w/e) but those type of people who also are like, "you're not a christian, you're going to hell. now i get to sit here and preach to you". its them who make it "oh, is this what its supposed to be about?" when really its not.
    i think its more or less how you yourself decide to beleive what you were brought up to beleive.
     
  12. JesusDiedForU

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    churches are corrupt that is why I worship Jesus and not the church
     
  13. Kilgore Trout

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    A truly humble man, as I believe he was, would not want to be worshipped.
     
  14. JesusDiedForU

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    Thats good because Jesus was God
     
  15. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    Yet he referred repeatedly to God as his father.
     
  16. interval_illusion

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    well. agent and jesus died 4u, by your last posts i have most respect for both of you....

    i also, love what jesus is, was, and stands for but i dont follow the church.....

    anyways.... i will never follow the church as i see it... but i will always follow what i believe, be kind and follow spirit.
     
  17. JesusDiedForU

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    -like many ... you dont understand the trinity.... there is the father, the son, and the holy spirit... Different parts yet alll the same body. For example if you had a triangle the son would be one angle.... the father would the another angle... and the holy spirit would be the other angle.... different angles but the same shape
     
  18. Kilgore Trout

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    I understand the notion, however it is a silly one.

    I suspect it was created to find some answer to the obvious contradiction. Do you really believe that when Jesus said "father", he was talking about himself? And the conversations with his father/self? Was Jesus a schizophrenic?

    People felt the need to elevate him to the status of God because they felt uncomfortable worshipping him otherwise. This type of thing is common in many religions.
     
  19. Bloody_Kisses

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    the evil bastard we all know and love :)
     
  20. Bloody_Kisses

    Bloody_Kisses Thizzler

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    this is really annoying....i mean, if i said what i really think then i think you would be pissed. man, you people are like robots, you are like programmed with certain ideas and beleifs. you have an answer for everything, even if people just pull questions out their ass. i hate christianity.

    if there is a god, hes rolling his eyes at you.
    and hes probably flipping me off. but the thing is, i dont give a shit.
     

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