Why does Pop music consistently outperform Rap?

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  1. Brudof

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    Lady Gaga tries way too hard to be edgy and different. She's the Madonna of our time? Ok, but Modana sucks too.
     
  2. Brudof

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    What a troll.
     
  3. The Imaginary Being

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    da reason dat fuckin' **** pop music is so fucking fuck bling, is 'cos mai nigga's like fucking shitting clean cut beats yo!

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  4. Brudof

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    basically.
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

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    Madonna was actually awesome through a Ray Of Light, hit or miss past that.

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    also lol to people saying Pink Floyd isn't pop, yes it's not dance music, top 40 pop, but Floyd are just as pop as Zeppelin are(Yes Zeppelin is pop too), once you become sell out stadium famous you lose a certain amount of ability to be as creative as you want, hence why we've never seen another Ummagumma, Echoes or Atom Heart Mother. People forget 30 years ago in 1977 being a Pink Floyd fan in many circles made you an asshole as Pink Floyd was often the focal point of ire for the rising punk community since they were the most famous "progressive" band.

    Also Pink Floyd was more traditional pop before DSOTM. Piper at the Gates was very pop music in 1967, and songs like Summer 68', Fat Old Sun, San Tropez, Free Four, The Gold it's in the..., Remember a Day, all had radio play in mind.
     
  6. The Imaginary Being

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    confessions on a dance floor was good for a later effort.
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

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    It was alright, most of her albums in the past 10 years have been decent enough, I guess it's just hard to live up to the golden age stuff, but then again that's true for almost every band, like god if only Dylan could write another Blood on the Tracks. Hard Candy was decent too. Though may favorite Madonna song of the past 10 years is probably Die Another Day. The one album I really didn't like was Music, there was like 2 decent songs on it.
     
  8. guerillabedlam

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    Time out of mind in 97 was considered a really good album by Dylan. I don't own a single Dylan album besides greatest hits though so I don't know how they stack up.
     
  9. TopNotchStoner

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    The way most rap and even country is produced these days, it qualifies as "pop" music, imo.
     
  10. The Imaginary Being

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    i like hard candy, also. though my favourite modern madonna song's are probably get together or forbidden love perhaps.

    and yeah, i hate music. but i didn't like most of american life either.

    dylan's best album, to me, is blonde on blonde.
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    I was responding to a post that said for the past 60 years pop has outperformed. N.W.A., Public Enemy, were far from pop and still sold well and eventhough they had more commercial appeal 2pac, Dr. Dre and all gangster rap that sold well in the 90's was not pop, nor was Wu-Tang Clan, A tribe called quest, etc.
     
  12. TheMadcapSyd

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    A lot of people seem to think that holding a guitar automatically makes a piece of music empirically better and more creative.

    Which is weird considering everyone knows guitar is for pussies and violin is empirically the best instrument.
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

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    time out of mine is a fucking fantastic album, omg, download it now
     
  14. Deranged

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    why does terrible music constantly outperform bad music? i dunno, but i'd be happy to see some good music in the mix again. one of these days, good music will be trendy again. it's inevitable. happened in the 60s, 70s, then for a little bit in the early 90s. it's bound to come back again...at least for a little bit. unless the producer's formula written "music" crap really has taken over pop culture permanently (i hope not).
     
  15. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Truth
     
  16. TheMadcapSyd

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    good music was never trendy, it's just another form of historical revisiniom, music has always been bad, it's easy to think the 60's and 70's was just this plethora of great music when all the terrible bands and artists that were around have long since faded into memory, being lucky if they get a wikipedia article.
     
  17. Deranged

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    a lot higher % of what was on pop radio back in the day was quality music compared to today. hell, how many #1 hits did the beatles have. now look at a couple of the few good modern bands: radiohead, beck. how many #1 hits have they had? i'm not saying theyre comparable to the beatles, but i mean...are you seriously arguing pop music in the woodstock era is just as bad as it is now?
     
  18. TheMadcapSyd

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    The Beatles, and most bands of the 60's are an exception. Rock n roll was very new in the 1960's, saying how the Beatles had a lot of hits back then is like saying kids are irresponsible with their money these days cause $20 in 1967 would last me a week. It was a completely different time in the history of music, 4 chord rock n roll love songs were freakin revolutionary. I mean even The Beatles, they're 27 number one hits, the 1 album has them in order, even by say 1972 standards almost the first half of them are really uncreative pop, they just sound really good. The Beatles were the right band at the right time, they could've been any good looking band.(yes The Beatles are even more pop in the fact part of their original explosion was due to the fact their shaggy hair made them sex gods to young girls.)

    And yes I'm arguing pop music was just as bad then, do you have any idea how many terrible songs there were in the 60's? The difference is, no one has listened to them in 40 years because they were that terrible.

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    The hilarious thing about this is people in their late 20's in 1966 were probably also complaining how terrible pop music had become since the early days of Rock N roll, rockabilly, ect when Rock n roll was still very blues and R&B oriented.
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    Radiohead has had 5 no.1 albums in the uk, 2 in the us with 2 others in the top 10, That's fairly solid.

    As far as singles go I think Hendrix only had 1 top 40 single.
    Pink floyd only had two.
    Led Zeppelin cracked the top 40 a few times but never had a number 1
     
  20. TheMadcapSyd

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    Grateful Dead only broke the top 20 once too with Touch of Grey
    You can actually look up all number 1 songs:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_hits_%28United_States%29

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    Guerilla makes the point though, a lot of the bands we think were all over the charts and radio back in the day, they weren't Some in fact were, The Beatles, The Stones, Beach Boys, Mamas and the Papas, ect did in fact have a lot of hit singles, but many times they were single oriented to begin with, in the 60's singles were often separate from a full length album especially among famous bands(Money milking). That's why really single charts from today, or hell even post 1970 really can't be compared to the single charts of the 60's rock n roll boom.
     

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