Why does meditation diminish libido?

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by FirePlanet, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    I'm glad I can help you in your quest to enslave the human race
     
  2. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    You are being disingenuous. You have called yourself FirePlanet.
    There is nothing you can find here that is not everywhere. What power do you think you gain participating in this particular venue?
    Something besides power, money, or sex?
    You can't even speak consistently for yourself much less control people. It is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out. Our minds are kingdoms only each individual can control. The power to change your mind is the only power you have.
    Yes delusion. What ever you do with another you do together. A persons mind is the only inviolate authority.

    In that case you deserve everything you do not win as well, that is you deserve to loose an equal amount.
    If you ever once got what you want, you wouldn't be continually looking for it in others.
    You are not, a special case.
     
  3. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    Fireplanet - if you are masturbating 4-7 times a day I would say you are oversexxxed and have no worries in that regard.

    As for thinking you have initiated the kundalini, I am very sceptical. If you had active kundalini and masturbated that much you would feel on fire and horrible.



    Meditation has never diminished my libido, and it has allowed me to empathize more with my partner on occassion. So I have to say, 'No,' meditation, yoga, any holistic exercise doesn't diminish libido.



    ...and you simply cannot tell in a short time as it seems you have - you would have to look back over a year or more to see the reality.

    Finally, during a long celibate retreat (true celibacy - no sex, no masturbation) one may start to heal in deep ways (if it's a good practice) and ypour energy may be working to heal you or something else.
     
  4. chrisdotdo

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    Your sexual power is being transmuted. Your libido is simply balancing out. The transmuted sexual power should trickle down to the Base Chakra. Once that chakra gets developed, the Kundalini would eventually awaken and connect with the universe through the Crown Chakra. Once the Kundalini flow does its cycles, your sexual power would increase as well, but you would also find yourself on a new level, a totally different reality, which requires maturity and responsibility. A new equilibrium is, therefore, necessary. You would see ambition and competitiveness in a new light, no doubt. Your life would change, continuously. Are you studying under a Kundalini master? If not, you may want to consider stopping until you find one.
     
  5. YoMama

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    Meditation decreases obsession
     
  6. chrisdotdo

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    I know of a number of people who became very obsessed with meditation that they neglected their earthly duties and almost ruined their lives. You have to distinguish between meditation and spiritual work. A friend said it well, "I watch people all the time. They meditate and have a little smile on their faces. One thing about spiritual work as opposed to meditation is that in spiritual work you always end up not looking too good because it forces you to see the crap in yourself. People who meditate only see the bliss and the sweetness. In spiritual work everyone else gets the sweetness, and you get the work. Work is your service to God. In meditation you live in the sweetness because they can't reach you, and everyone else gets the work. You are superior, you are removed. But when you are working and serving consciously, and breaking yourself apart doing it, then you really have what makes you more independent, unconstrained, and grounded."
     
  7. YoMama

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    I find it hard to believe that they are really meditating because it is so not about obsession.
     
  8. chrisdotdo

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    Sorry, double post.
     
  9. chrisdotdo

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    Then again, meditation is different for everyone. Everyone has their reason(s). It all depends on the technique you follow. Some meditate to be "enlightened." I don't. Some do it to attract a lover, or get supernatural powers. There are many paths to one's momentary happiness. Besides, I have nothing against people's obsessive behavior as long as it doesn't interfere with my life. I often find that obsessed people are more interesting and fun and sexy compared to those who pretend that nothing dominates their thoughts and feelings. Regardless of one's meditation technique, one is still "aware." When one is "aware," obsession is inevitable. Some would even argue that "letting go" is a form of obsession. Before one's "awareness" gets totally extinguished, deleted, destroyed..., one is very mind-full. No one can go around this. It's the nature of being in a duality mode. And everyone in this world is in that mode, including "awakened," "enlightened," "self-realized" beings. To consciously focus one's mind is a form of obsession, no doubt. It's not a good or bad thing, however. It just is.
     
  10. YoMama

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    I agree obsessed people are fun and interesting. Yet, to me mediation is about getting quite
     
  11. chrisdotdo

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    I hear ya. There's something healing about being silent. Not only does it ground one's "awareness," One could also feel (and sometimes see) one's tension ease away and transmuted. Being silent is, after all, the doorway to nourishing the Chakra System, and eventually awakening the Kundalini.
     
  12. Humanity

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    Because you've reached serenity, and no longer require the constant need to sexually please yourself.

    Your clear mind has the ability to sort out emotions, and has the ability to focus. You will realize that you do not need to orgasm constantly, and your animalistic instincts will be pushed aside in way for more human things.

    Meditation sets us apart, mindfulness and the ability to think about thinking.
     
  13. Chodpa

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    Not my experience. But I also have never masturbated seven times in a day. I think that the most sexual I have ever been was having sex at separate girls two times in a day, and masturbating three times that same day (because I thought it would make me want sex less, so I wouldn't fuck my old girlfriend. I was wrong). That day was highly oversexed and the act of sex ended up being rather careless and felt like meat and meat.

    Meditation offered me an activity which allowed me to enjoy abstaining from sex and masturbation. I think I went 16 months without either at the high point of my yogic caper. That was my last teen year and the beginning of my 20s. I belonged to a group of celibate yogi men and we meditated in a group of upwards of two thousand people, doing Transcendental Meditation.

    At the end of that period of time I thought even trees were sexy and I would have screwed the scratchy bark off of one - if I hadn't found a new girlfriend.

    Meditation wasn't the reason, nor kundalini, of which I am an adept, and have even seen. But rather, a broken heart made giving up sex and romance easy, at an adventitious time for engaging in my yogic and ayurvedic lifestyle.

    Before, and since meditation has never changed the desire to have sex for me, or rather of making love. And I do prefer making love to just having sex. Making love is the best of best things to do, IMHO.

    If meditation is changing your desire to not masturbate seven times a day then may I suggest that it's inspiring you to seek balance?:love:
     
  14. Chodpa

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    I looked at that site and book and one word - bullshit.

    I am a kundalini adept. I have had acknowledgement from a few who's opinions counted to me.

    That book ascribes too many words to kundalini, so right away - bullshit. Kundalini cannot be ascribed to anything but initiation. No initiation, no kundalini. You must have had life before, and life after. Thus initiation. You can only say you have kundalini enlivened if you have actually seen her. Otherwise you're just guessing.

    I read about kundalini and I say bullshit. It doesn't go straight up middle avaduti column. Or if it does it doesn't feel like it. The unwinding of a persons unique samskara and vritti prevents upward mobilization and one must clean their shrotas through many years of kundalini practice of which one is aware of doing so. And it is not done under will, though it may be controlled of in excess.

    regardless, you will find all nexuses (chakras) enlivened all at once. You will reside permanantly in Svadishthana and with vision in Manipura for the rest of your life. thus heaven will be circumscribing all your experience for the rest of your days. Third eye and crown will be maximized. End of the road for you. You will have rahu and ketu as your path of karma - all over and done with.

    If this doesn't make sense then you are not kundalini adept.

    Kundalini has no effect upon sexuality. Very sexual persons will stay very sexual and not very sexual will stay not very sexual. You will experience some basic flux automatically, from all types of exogenous and endogenous stressors.
     

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