Why does God allow the suffering of little children?

This is an extremely bigot judgment that applies to Hinduism and many other religions, or maybe just shallow minded, unaware and unaccepting of others. Sums up all the bullshit Christians have presented themselves with.

The Book the Shack addresses this question mainly through a story of Father who lost her daughter to kidnapping, receives a letter from god to meet him at a Shack out in the boondocks, where his daughter was murdered, where he communicates and lives with the holy trinity. I only read half, I was enjoying it. But I got past the first meeting with the Holy Trinity, and the Holy Father's, explanation basically describes ego, an illusion of free will, a separation from God and all that is holy, as the motivation behind evil acts.

But if you want to be honest and fair about Christianity to its text, the question will forever remained unanswered because god is supposed to be omnipotent, and in complete control of your fate. Don't care about offending people, Christianity is the silliest major religion, and breeds the most pretentious kind of person, the kindness out of pity. But to be fair the harshest and restrictive major religion being Judaism, and the most tolerant Islam. Both Religions breeding people of different type from their Text.

 

Why in the fuck would I want to be fair to christianity or ANY other religion?

Want to be honest about them? Fine, they are ALL a method to control people who are otherwise to fucking USELESS to think on their own.

Do you need a god to tell you that its wrong to kill?

Do you need a god to tell you that it isn't good to harm children?

I sure as hell don't and wonder just what people would be like if they didnt have their god to control themselves...

Would they start raping kids? OH WAIT.... the PRIESTS of the gods ALREADY DO THIS.

 

And Tom, if you look at it with a pinch of reason, it is far more sensible to peacefully account for death and suffering, and see it as an important part of a growing soul. Lord of Shiva, Lord of Death, is associated with Rebirth. It is also far more practical to what may be reality, there may be extra intelligence governing reality and life, but it is not biased to Light or Dark, or Good and Evil. As far as we know the intelligence could just be a work of nature, without will.

 

Sensible and religion do not mix.

Let us all flock together and bask in the sheppards light like the fucking SHEEP that we are!!!

Fuck that... You want to believe in an intelligent higher being? Great, he (she/it) gave you a brain to make your own decisions in life...

 

I had this conversation with someone yesterday, who said that we only know that killing is wrong, because our conscience is actually God talking to us.

 

I'm sorry I wasn't aware you were coming from an Anti Religion angle at all. In fact from past meanderings on the religion boards I was quite sure you were a Christian. The statement of yours seemed to be a reaction against a different religious ideal from Christianity and that it made no ethical sense. And what I meant was to be true to the text and the concept of the Christian god, He is supposed to have complete control of someone's fate....Yet too many the fate is early death, life long suffering...Why? Is it because the young kid must have sinned or is it because the young kid did not accept Jesus into his heart?

Your questions are a duh for me, you misinterpretation my original stance.

 

Yes, because people are too stupid to know that for themselves...

It's much too hard for someone to make the connection between, "I dont want to be killed, therefore I shouldnt want someone else to kill me"...

It's much easier to sit back and let 'god' do that thinking for you...

 

Christian? Me? Wow man... is that ever a misread...

As for me misinterpreting your original stance... You mean the stance based on your misinterpretation of my beliefs?

 

I hope you don't endorse that. Conscience is a byproduct of dissonance, and the major belief being held within your own empathetic/sympathetic capacity as a living Human being. Hence remorseless killers, sociopaths, anti social disorders lack of that capacity. Conscience I think is only there when you have already gone against your own integrity.

 

Actually not necessarily, you still completely passed judgment on a whole slew of people... "That's all" you "need to know about" them. In any case, especially this, it doesn't have to do with what Religion you subscribe to, but what your philosophical take on death and suffering is... and when you think a philosophical idea as being accepting and welcoming of death and suffering is not a good thing, and a hint that you know someone is completely wrong. As you suggested....

 

Ah yes, but we are but sinners who cannot think or do good without God.

Not at all, I don't agree with it. I think it's a crazy view, and can't understand how people don't see that.

 

Odd thing, just like I don't care what your or someone else's god may think, I dont care what you or someone else may think of my opinion of it all...

I have never said I wouldn't judge anyone... in fact, I can make a multipage argument as to why anyone who says they dont judge people is 100% FULL OF SHIT.

As for my statement, I stand by it 100%... if someone worships a god (ANY GOD) that uses children and innocents in some fucked up twisted game, and see nothing wrong with killing and torturing them for his own ends... then yes, that is ALL I need to know about a person to know I have no use for them....

Why is that hard to understand?

 

Dammit typsy... you really need a sarcastic smiley face on some of your posts... lol

 

I don't believe in a higher intelligence being, I believe in life experience suggested forces in reality that exhibit signs of intelligence, that isn't human thought based, but natural flows, that don't account for that everyone should live a perfectly safe and trouble free existence. And that at a deeper layer within ourselves mind of old dies away and gives way to new, in consciousness. Who can disprove that operations at this level, and occurring between locations is not the same level of existence that life first birthed from... Actually they're more close to proving it... It's called the Quantum field, and the main idea of particles arise from waves out of self knowledge, isn't too far a stretch to suggest that life come from consciousness, consciousness not from life.

 

Sorry

 

The problem here is that you take one thing, blow it into a whole new combination of words that expand the meaning to include something completely different from what was addressed. There was no mention of child sacrifice...or specific violent practices because death and suffering as seen as a pivotal part of life. Perhaps passed judgement is too light a term for you to understand the level at which you did.....

I unlike you suggested you did, don't make total conclusions such as knowing all I need to know about someone, because of their religion...

Even silly Christians. We all share this earth and space/time.

 

LOL

Just who is PROVING what about Quantum theory?

You know what I love about science and technology? It isn't based on peoples opinions or theories... As in, it doesn't matter why you think a computer turns on when you flip the switch... the simple fact is it does...

You know what I hate about THEORIES like the quantum theory? It's not based on fact... it is a theory...

We, as humans have a very bad habit of guessing that we know something, and then letting that guess become a foundation to build upon...

Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying that part of the quantum theory aren't right... hell I wont even say that I think parts of it are wrong... But I sure as hell wouldn't base anything about my life on it, just like I wouldn't on the theory of god...

Now, before anyone runs off to start finding links to show 'proof' of quantum theory, keep in mind that having one small part of a theory being confirmed does not mean the whole theory has been proven.

 

because blaming God is a lot easier than accepting that the universe doesn't give a fuck about life and will take it indescriminately :mickey:

 

Do as you choose to do... Me, I don't have any use for people who support the abuse or killing of children... even if it is a god who is doing it...

Perhaps, passed judgment is too uncommon of a thing for you to understand the level at which I don't really give a fuck who likes the fact that I hold everyone accountable for their own choices... Wether or not they choose to blame them on some god, some disease, drug or fucking solar flares....

Oh, and as for that bolded part... I don't give a fuck what religion a person follows... havent you got that yet? I don't care what someone calls their god... I don't care what someone does for their god....

UNTIL IT INVOLVES CAUSING OR ALLOWING PAIN, HARM, OR DEATH TO COME TO INNOCENTS TO FURTHER SOME GRAND SCHEME

 

Well, you can only blame God if you believe in him.