Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?

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  1. newo

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    So the Flat Earth movement is a conspiracy to undermine conspiracies? Interesting conspiracy theory you have there.
     
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    Thanks for catching that Historical Review thing.
     
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    Epidemic typhus
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    For example, typhus killed millions of prisoners in German Nazi concentration camps during World War II.
    Epidemic typhus - Wikipedia

    Majdanek and Dachau were said to have showers that gas came out instead of water! OK...........

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    Valves on the shower heads?
    Dont you think they could simply reach up and shut the valve off?


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    Dont you think they could have simply jumped out the window Tish?
    Same as Auschwitz, windows in the gas chamber?

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    Cant wait to see your comments on these!



    Did you catch TISH'S GAS CHAMBER TOO?

    Please explain how anyone can be gassed in Tish's GAS CHAMBER?

    Arent you glad I caught that?

    If I had not caught that people might have believed there really was gas chambers!


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    LOL
     
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  4. Shy0ne

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    I keep asking for hard material evidence that any of your story is true and all I get from you people is opinion pieces and people saying its true.

    NEVER any hard material evidence!

    I'd like an explanation WHY you people are claiming ordinary showers are gas chambers?

    I think you owe the readers that.
     
  5. Shy0ne

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    Again all I see from you and Tish SLAMMING AND ATTACKING THE MESSENGER, NOT THE MESSAGE!

    I just noticed that EVERYTHING on that page IS REFERENCED!

    So lets look at the message:

    ** John D. McCallum, Crime Doctor [a biography of Dr. Charles P. Larson] (Mercer, Wash.: The Writing Works, 1978), pp. 44-46, 59, 69;

    ** See also: J. Cobden, "The Dachau Gas Chamber Myth," The Journal of Historical Review, March-April 1995, pp. 17-18.

    The crime Doctor is the Official US Army Forensic Investigative Pathologist who performed autopsies on over 1000 corpses and did not find any gassed victims in the DEATH CAMPS.

    ** 2. Jane Floerchinger, "Concentration Camp Conditions Killed Most Inmates, Doctor Says," The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.

    The newspaper Journalist conclusion after interviewing Larsen about what he found on the camps.


    ** 3. J. D. McCallum, Crime Doctor (1978), p. 46.

    Quote from Forensic Investigator Charles P Larsens book Crime Doctor (1978).

    ** The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.

    Quote from Eagle Journalist,

    ** Rear Admiral John E. Gordon, USN, "Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945,"

    Quoting Admiral Gordon!

    ** in Forest Ray Moulton, editor, Rickettsial Diseases of Man (Washington, DC: American Academy for the Advancement of Science, 1948), pp. 16-27.

    ** Quoted in: Friedrich P. Berg, "Typhus and the Jews,"

    ** The Journal of Historical Review
    , Winter 1988-89, pp. 444-447,

    ** and in Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (IHR, 1993), pp. 46-47.


    Quoting Gordon and Moulton on the conditions in Europe.


    ** 6. "Disease killed Nazis' prisoners, MD says," Toronto Star, Feb. 8, 1985, p. A2.

    The Toronto Star editor quotes Larson and Barton!


    ** On Barton's similar testimony in a 1988 Toronto trial, see: Barbara Kulaszka, ed.,

    The same testimony from the British Army Forensic Investigator.

    ** Did Six Million Really Die? (Toronto: Samisdat, 1992), pp. 175-180, and,

    Toronto Journalist Editorical.

    ** Robert Lenski, The Holocaust on Trial (1990), pp. 157-160, and,

    Problems with the Holocaust story quoting Robert Lenski.

    ** M. Weber, "Bergen-Belsen Camp: The Suppressed Story," The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1995, pp. 27, 30 (n. 30).

    Quoting M Weber

    ** 7. "Clay Explains Cut in Ilse Koch Term," The New York Times, Sept. 24, 1948, p. 3.

    ** 8. Interview with Lucius Clay, 1976, Official Proceeding of the George C. Marshall Research Foundation. Quoted in M. Weber, "Buchenwald: Legend and Reality," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87 (Vol. 7, No. 4), pp. 406-407.

    ** 9. International Military Tribunal (IMT), Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949 ["blue series"]), Vol. 20, pp. 489, 438.

    ** 10. Eugen Kogon, The Theory and Practice of Hell (New York: Berkley Books [pb.], 1984), pp. 108-109. See also: "Punishment for Mistreating SS Camp Prisoners," The Journal of Historical Review, Jan.-Feb. 1995, p. 33.

    ** 11. Nuremberg document NO-1523. Published in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunal (NMT "green series"), Vol. 4, pp. 372-373.

    ** 12. Egon W. Fleck and Edward A. Tenenbaum, Buchenwald: A Preliminary Report, US Army, 12th Army Group, April 24, 1945. National Archives, RG 331, SHAEF, G-5, 17.11, Jacket 10, Box 151. Quoted in: M. Weber, "Buchenwald: Legend and Reality," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 408-409.

    ** 13. Donald B. Robinson, "Communist Atrocities at Buchenwald," American Mercury, October 1946, pp. 397-404.

    ** 14. San Bernardino Sun-Telegram, March 13, 1966. Quoted in: James J. Martin, The Man Who Invented 'Genocide' (IHR, 1984), pp. 110-111.

    ** 15. "Concentration Camp at Natzwiller [sic]," RG 331, Records of Allied Operations and Occupation, SHAEF/G-5/2717, Modern Military, National Archives (Washington, DC). Quoted in: Robert H. Abzug, Inside the Vicious Heart (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985), pp. 9-10, 181 (n. 5).

    ** 16. John Cobden, Dachau: Reality and Myth (IHR, 1994), pp. 25-29. See also: The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993, pp. 9-11; The Journal of Historical Review, March- April 1995, p. 16.

    ** 17. "Keine Vergasung in Dachau," Die Zeit (Hamburg), August 19, 1960. Facsimile reprint, and English-language translation, in The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993, p. 12.

    ** 18. Letters in Books & Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5, and in The Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14. Wiesenthal's 1993 Stars and Stripes letter is reprinted in facsimile in The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993, p. 10.

    ** 19. Memorial Site Concentration Camp Dachau. Leaflet published by the International Dachau-Committee (Dachau, Germany), no date.


    AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON!

    [1] Nerin Gun, The Day of the Americans (New York: Fleet Publishing, 1966), p. 128.

    [2] N. Gun, The Day of the Americans, pp. 674)9.

    [3] Michael Selzer, Deliverance Day: The Last Hours at Dachau (Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott, 1978), p. 31.

    [4] M. Selzer, Deliverance Day (1978), p. 246.

    [5] International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949 [IMT "blue
    series"]), Vol. 19, p. 434.

    [6] International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal (1947-1949), Vol. 37, p. 621. (Document
    159-L is a "Report of a Special Congressional Committee to the Congress of the United States, 15 May 1945 ...")

    [7] International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal (1947-1949), Vol. 5, pp. 172-173.

    [8] Quoted in: John D. McCallum, Crime Doctor (Mercer Island, Wash.: The Writing Works, 1978), pp. 46, 57.

    [9] Quoted in: John D. McCallum, Crime Doctor (1978), p. 57.

    [10] John D. McCallum, Crime Doctor (1978), pp. 57-60, 69.

    [11] Jane Floerchinger, "Concentration Camp Conditions Killed Most Inmates, Doctor Says," The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.

    [12] Paul Rassinier, The Holocaust Story and the Lies of Ulysses (IHR, 1989), pp. 230-231.

    [13] Fr. Alexis Lechanski, "At Dachau," The Wanderer (St. Paul, Minn.), October 5, 1989.

    [14] Robert Baldwin, "Priest recalls horror of concentration camp," Our Sunday Visitor, May 26, 1985, p. 3.

    [15] Paul Berben, Dachau 1933-45, The Official History (London: Norfolk Press, 1975), p. 147. See John Cobden's review of this book in The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989 (Vol. 9, No.4), pp. 485-504.

    [16] Robert Baldwin, "Priest recalls horror of concentration camp," Our Sunday Visitor, May 26, 1985, p. 3.

    [17] Paul Berben, Dachau 1933-45, The Official History. (London: 1975), p. 153.

    [18] Letter by Stephen F. Pinter, Our Sunday Visitor, June 14, 1959, p. 15.

    [19] Andrew Mollo, "Dachau," After the Battle (London: Plaistow Press, 1980), Issue No. 27, pp. 17,25.

    [20] Book & Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5; Wiesenthal similarly acknowledged that "there were no extermination camps on German soil" in a letter published in Stars and Stripes (Europe), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 4. A facsimile of Wiesenthal's 1993 letter is published in The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993 (Vol. 13, No.3), p. 10.

    [21] "Keine Vergasung in Dachau," Die Zeit (German edition), August 19, 1960 (and in the US edition, Aug. 26, 1960, p. 14); Facsimile of this letter, with translation and commentary, in The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993 (Vol. 13, No.3), p. 12.

    [22] A. Mollo, "Dachau," After the Battle (London: 1980), Issue No. 27, p. 13; Probably the most thoughtful and detailed account of the liberation day massacre of German camp personnel is Dachau: The Hour of the Avenger, a memoir and investigation by Howard Buechner. This well illustrated 175-page softcover book is available from Thunderbird Press, 300 Cuddihy Dr., Metairie, LA 70005, USA. See also: The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1993, pp. 7, 8, and, The Journal of Historical Review, Nov.-Dec. 1993, p. 47.

    [23] P. Berben, Dachau: 1933-45, The Official History (London: 1975), p. 191.

    [24] A. Mollo, "Dachau," After the Battle (1980), Issue No. 27, p. 15.

    [25] M. Selzer, Deliverance Day (1978), p. 176.

    [26] M. Selzer, Deliverance Day (1978), pp. 188-189.

    [27] M. Selzer, Deliverance Day (1978), p. 13.

    [28] P. Berben, Dachau: 1933-45 (London: 1975), p. 194.

    [29] For more about this, see: Joseph Halow, Innocent at Dachau (Institute for Historical Review, 1992).

    [30] Alfred-Maurice de Zayas, The Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau, 1939-1945 (Lincoln, Neb.: University of Nebraska Press, 1989), p, 119.

    [31] A.-M. de Zayas, The Wehnnacht War Crimes Bureau, (Lincoln, Neb.: 1989), p. 120.

    [32] A. Mollo, "Dachau," After the Battle (London: 1980), Issue No. 27, p. 20.

    [33] See: Mark Weber, "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No.2), pp. 187-193.

    [34] Nikolai Tolstoy, The Secret Betrayal (New York: Scribner's, 1977), pp. 354-356. The British edition of this book is entitled Victims of Yalta.

    [35] A-M. de Zayas, The Wehnnacht War Crimes Bureau (Lincoln, Neb.: 1989), pp. 272-273.

    About the Author

    John Cobden is the pen name of an American writer whose essays on political issues have appeared in nationally-circulated magazines and major daily newspapers, including the Hartford Courant and the Orange County Register. His writings on aspects of the Holocaust issue have appeared in The Journal of Historical Review and, in translation, in the French journal Revue d'Histoire Revisionniste.

    From The Journal of Historical Review, March-April 1995 (Vol. 15, No. 2), pages 14-26. This essay is adapted from “The Dachau ‘Gas Chamber’?,” which is Part Two of Cobden’s booklet Dachau: Reality and Myth.
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    So here you 2 are LAMBASTING the MESSENGER who is QUOTING HUNDREDS OF OTHER SOURCES with references!

    We see volumes of statements from US Generals, US Admirals, Nuremburg trial excerpts, National Archives, Forensic Pathological Investigators, Journalists,

    ALL OF WHICH DISAGREE WITH THE OFFICIAL HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE

    Even leading Jews and Rabbis themselves disagree with your Holocau

    Israeli Historians Welcome Revision Of Auschwitz Death Toll


    Revised findings by the Auschwitz State Museum said the number of victims in the Nazi death camp in southern Poland actually was 1.1 million to 1.5 million, the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza reported Tuesday.

    Of that number, at least 960,000 were Jews.

    Israeli Historians Welcome Revision Of Auschwitz Death Toll


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    Do you realize the MASSIVE CONSPIRACY AGAINST JEWS, that your claims implicate?

    Im sorry but I and anyone who wants the TRUTH needs hard 'material' evidence your narrative is true since there are so many highly credible references quoted by the MESSENGER you condemn. Unlike you 2 I dont buy into opinions and regard it as fact!

    I think you both owe the readers here explanations how come there is such a vast amount of data from highly credible sources
    (quoted by the messenger you condemn) that runs 100% contrary to your Holocaust narrative.
     
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  6. Tishomingo

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    Loathe as I am to continue this pointless discussion, I am puzzled by the shower thing. If I were as "skeptical" as Shy, I'd ask "how do we know these showers are fromMajdenek?" But I'm willing to accept it at face value. But what do pictures of showers there have anything to do with whether or not there were gas chambers there--particularly when the photo is labeled "detail of shower room where prisoners showered BEFORE GOING INTO THE GAS CHAMBERS?

    And why didn't they jump out the window? Maybe because it was boarded at the time? Or because it was not in the gas chamber?
     
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  7. Shy0ne

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    Dont you know the gas chamber claims that have been circulating for years?
    The showers were supposedly fake and gas came out instead of water.
    Thats what it has to do with it.
    Oh yes, they wanted us to be squeaky clean for the big gassing event.
    "BEFORE GOING INTO THE GAS CHAMBERS?" yeh what a gas!

    They did have real gas chambers at every camp to disinfect clothing and shoes etc, just like being inducted into the US armed service the clothes come off, the head gets shaved (except women) and you get a uniform issued. Nothing abnormal about that.

    They dont let anyone take pictures anymore in the prisoners rec room (theater) and the olympic swimming pool thats right beside the prisoner barracks and who would have guessed...its not on the tour! You dont get to see it unless you ask specifically to see it and pay extra for a 'personal' tour.....

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    Early in 1945, a transport of prisoners introduced typhus into the camp. Characterized by purple rashes, headaches, and delirium, typhus is most lethal during famines and wartime. Inmates at Bergen-Belsen were easy prey for so-called “typhus fever.”

    When Hughes arrived with the British army, he was forced to make immediate decisions about triage. In addition to the corpses stacked everywhere, there were 60,000 survivors who needed urgent medical attention.

    75 years ago this week, ‘typhus fever’ met its match at Bergen-Belsen
     
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    the prisoners organized bands and would travel from camp to camp.
    Seems odd to call them all death camps!


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    Official Camp Orchestras
    Official camp orchestras included amateur as well as professional musicians, and were ordered or tolerated by the camp administration. The first band in Auschwitz was created on SS orders in December 1940. As a result, seven musicians had their instruments (violin, percussion, double-bass, accordion, trumpet, saxophone) forwarded from their homes to the camp and began rehearsals on 6 January 1941 in Block 24 of the main camp. This ensemble grew rapidly with the permission of the camp authorities, and was divided into a symphony orchestra with up to 80 players and a brass band with about 120 musicians. Following the model of the main camp, bands were subsequently formed in the Birkenau women‘s camp, the men’s camp, the 'Gypsy' camp and the Theresienstadt family camp as well as in Monowitz and in some sub-camps. These were usually medium-sized brass bands with strings and existed for several months and even years. The orchestra in the women’s camp at Birkenau –- the only women’s camp orchestra –- has become known to a broader public through Fania Fenelon’s controversial memoirs and the related film Playing for Time. Official Camp Orchestras in Auschwitz

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    The Swimming Pool again as we can see they are right next to the prisoners barracks.

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    If you dont believe me, and I had a heck of a time finding a decent pic, here is an Ariel view top center. You can see the prisoners barracks are fenced in the pool is just about center top immediately above the barracks.

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    Its left of the so called execution wall that is in pristine shape and has no bullet chips in it.


    Heres the theater, where the prisoners put on shows for the kids and adults and the prisoners could watch german movies and live plays put on by the prisoners.


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    They had musicians that would walk around the camp playing songs!

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    I can imagine everyone is in shock and disbelief seeing this after only seeing all the doom and gloom propaganda side of things from childhood to today.

    death, death, death death camps then this??? It was painful to me to see this the first time.

    You wouldnt, at least I didnt believe how close to normal life it is, at least till the 1945 typhus outbreak in combination with the allies cutting off the medical and food supplies.

    How do we explain these things in a DEATH camp???
     
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  10. MeAgain

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    Sounds like Disneyland!
    Swimming pool, plays, concerts, hot showers, free medical care, no wonder so many people showed up there!
     
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    The "not gas chamber--just showers at Majjdanek and Auschwitz " charge is thoroughly discussed and refuted in Shermer and Grobman, Denying History,Part. III, especially pp. 162-165; Jacques Pressac, (1989) Auschwitz,Techniquese and Operation of the Gas Chambers; and Pressac and van Pelt, (1994)"The Machinery of Mass Murder at Auschwitz", in Gutman and Berembaum, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camps, and Lublin/Majdanek Concentration Camp: Conditions

    "Mass murder operations using poison gas began at Majdanek in October 1942 and continued until the end of 1943. There appear to have been three gas chambers at Majdanek; at least two were shower rooms reconfigured for use of Zyklon B gas. At least one of these two was used to kill human beings. (the other, Barrick # 42) for delousing clothing with the same Zyklon B when the camp was in operation). Some sources refer to a third gas chamber, which reportedly used carbon monoxide gas as a means of murder." Lublin/Majdanek Concentration Camp: Conditions There are actually two gas chamber buildings at Majdanek. One was for gassing people with Zyklon B was shown on the tour; the other one is barrack Number 42 which was used for delousing clothing with the same Zyklon B when the camp was in operation.)
    The main part of the gas chamber room has a plate glass window, which lets in natural light, but it is too high up on the wall to be useful for observing the people inside. This window has no bars on either the inside or the outside. In the second gas chamber in this same building, there is a small barred window on the interior wall, about 6 by 10 inches. The last gas chamber is a small windowless room.
    "The large chamber also had a metal pipe, 25 mm in diameter, fastened to one of the walls above the floor. As in the smaller chamber, the carbon monoxide from a steel cylinder got in through this pipe. In addition, there were two openings in the western wall, through which hot air (120 degrees C) was blown in by a ventilator from a stove placed on the outside of the chamber, which alone killed the victims and, at the same time, intensified the action of Cyclone B, since the lethal effect of the gas increased at a temperature of over 27 degrees C. The other small chamber, on the southern side, had only an opening in the roof to pour in Cyclone B. The massive metal doors to the chambers were air-tight, fastened by two bolts and iron bars."

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    Gas Chambers at Majdanek
    For discussion of Zyklon B as a killing agent for humans, see Zyklon B - Wikipedia
    What exactly are we supposed to draw from the pictures of shower faucets?
     
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    Ridiculing material evidence does nothing however to strengthen your position, in fact it serves to weaken it considerably.
    I am not aware of shower claims at auschwitz, care to cite them so I can investigate it further? there were in fact gas chambers afaik in all the camps, however the real ones were 'never' claimed to be used on humans.

    Yes, Maj and Dachau were both claimed to have gas coming out of the showers.

    Im very sorry to inform you that your book discussing the psychology of 'Holocaust Denial is 'NOT' material evidence the the Holocaust as you have presented it is real. Feel free to try again.


    I guess I have to remind you
    AGAIN that I have already informed you that I neither affirm not deny the Holocaust, I am sure you realize that it means I take neither a pro or con position.

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    As you can see above AGAIN I asked you to define which Holocaust you were talking about since there were so many of them. If my math is correct I think thats to the tune of 240 million Jews between 1850 and 1950 that were slaughtered in one manner or another....that in itself seems highly suspect.

    I am only claiming that what you seem to think is evidence does not remotely support your claim and the material evidence that you apparently refuse to consider actually paints a completely different picture that when evaluated actually seems to run contrary to your claims!

    You have failed again to produce material evidence in support of your claims, feel free however to try again only try to give us some material evidence instead of psychology opinions that do not even apply to me....k?

     
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    see
    Gassing Operations
    The extermination procedure in the gas chambers / Auschwitz and Shoah / History / Auschwitz-Birkenau
    The gas squads packed the 2,000 victims into the room. From the ceiling hung imitation shower heads. The doors were closed, the air was pumped out, and the gas poured in. Cyclone B, or hydrogen cyanide, is a very poisonous gas that causes death by internal suffocation. In sufficient concentrations, it causes death almost immediately. But the SS did not bother to calculate the proper quantities, so death took anywhere from three to twenty minutes. The Extermination Factory - Auschwitz - The Holocaust History - A People's and Survivor History - Remember.org

    As previously mentioned, I don't want to get sucked into your pathology. Obviously, the fringe groups you rely on have an infinite storehouse of material you can post or repost (We've seen your collage from the NYT before. It is irrelevant, since at best is would show that news reporting from one source was inaccurate in past cases). I have a life. Yours is obviously your conspiracy theories. Readers can judge for themselves.
     
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    It's the Holocaust denier's equivalent of the myth of the "Happy Darkie" in the ante-bellum slave South. Stereotypes of African Americans - Wikipedia How could they be oppressed if they sing and dance? Musicians in the Nazi concentration camps were the subject of the Hollywood movie, Playing for Time.Playing for Time (TV Movie 1980) - IMD--spared from death in return for performing music for their captors.
     
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    ShyOne,

    Elvis is dead.
    So is JFK Jr.
    The moon landing was real.
    9/11 was an outside job.
    Mass shootings are not false flags.
    Democrats are not behind a child sex ring.
    There are no microchips in Covid vaccines.
    The 2020 election was legitimate. Trump lost.

    Now, which of these statements do you deny?
     
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    Yeah, like fake Rabbi Moshe Aryeh, Moshe Friedman - Wikipedia ; The Strange Case of Mosheh Friedman | Jewish Federation of Dutchess County He seems never to have completed rabbinical studies, and his qualifications for the Rabbinate have been challenged by several leading authorities in the Orthodox Jewish community. , so he is not entitled to use the title of "Rabbi". his qualifications for the Rabbinate were certainly challenged by several top authorities in the Orthodox Jewish community, so he is not entitled to use the title of "Rabbi".

    Or John Cobden: "His writings on aspects of the Holocaust issue have appeared in The Journal of Historical Review and, in translation, in the French journal Revue d'Histoire Revisionniste." We've already established that Historical Review is a center of virulent anti-Semitism and the Holocaust conspiracy theory. You copied your description word-for-word from COCOH, its progeny. John Cobden | CODOH What you're doing is comparable to citing FOX, Breitbart, and the Drudge report on matters involving Trump. You obviously have plenty of time, and can list sources from the bibliographies of Holocaust Denial sources till the cows come home. Not reliable sources.
    For a different view, see
    And the list goes on!
     
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    But OT.....:D

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    Mzzls
     
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    Im having a hard time trying to find anything that gives us material evidence your claim is true.

    Please quote it with your citation, everything I cited had explnations, all you have done is posted a gob of meaningless titles. If you think you have a case make it.

    Challenged? Again meaningless until proven.
    So now you blame him because JHR quoted him???
    Whats up with that?
    What you are doing is comparable to wieselthal to report on matters of the holocaust.
    He escaped from 3, not 1 but 3 german concentration camps.
     
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