Why do young people listen to oldies?

Discussion in 'Music' started by punkrocker_chris32, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I'm just a fan of good music. I don't give a damn if its "old".
     
  2. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    i agree with nearly all the responses from other young people on this threa, but also, when was the last really good blues artist??

    To get good blues, you have to go back to the yardbirds and hendrix etc
     
  3. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    No you don't... just ask George. (orsino2)


    George himself is a kickass blues artist. He's surely not fromthe time of the Yardbirds :rolleyes:
     
  4. Orsino2

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    Ahaha, I really don't go past my folk and blues roots...


    Though I have done techno and reggae... :p

    When was the last time I saw a really good blues artist... I'd have to say a few weeks ago when I saw Jonny Lang.

    If you say there aren't any good blues artists and haven't been since the yardbirds, you have a HELL OF A LOT of explaining to do. You also need to learn to get out more because the last time I checked, Honeyboy Edwards, BB King, Buddy Guy, Robert Junior Lockwood, Robert Cray, Hubert Sumlin, Bo Diddley, Jimmie Vaughan, and a shitload of others are still at it.
     
  5. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    You were just telling me about Rory Gallagher yesterday I think it was... so there's another.

    B.B. King is still alive... :eek:
     
  6. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    ok i stand corrected! i will look into this jonny lang fellow!
     
  7. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    We listen to the "oldies" becuase its better music than what is playing on the radio today.... you can all thank MTV for that.. thanks for poluting todays youth with crap-pop and teenie bopper music... its annoying..... plus if another generation did not listen to older music... it wouldnt be called "oldies" it would be called "forgotten" cuz when the people from that era all died.. no one would be passing on the great music from those times....
     
  8. Orsino2

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    Chuck...

    :p Rory died in 1995.

    I'd also look into Johnny Winter.
     
  9. Orsino2

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    Yeah... it's sad... the can take Bob Dylan's invention of the music video (Subterranean Homesick Blues, 1966) and turn it into a monster.
     
  10. forest_pixie84

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    does anyone like Neil Diamond?
     
  11. Orsino2

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    He's okay, but a bit too pop for my tastes...
     
  12. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    check out Mark Karan, of Jemimah Puddle Duck and Rat Dog.
    Mark "loves him some blues" and writes them well, too.
    Plus, he turned me onto Move On .org a few years back...
     
  13. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    I guess for some older farts it's just baffling to watch younger folk form their identity around bands who have long passed. It's also quite baffling to see how many believe that the mainstream is it for modern music. That's precisely what the marketers of that sludge want you to think, that it's the only option when in fact some the most progressive sounds humanity has ever heard are coming out right now, today and believe me, they're talented. Maybe it's just baffling when I at my age know more about new music than a good 95% of the kids around here. It's sad actually. I don't knock listening to music from a different era, it goes way back, cavemen hits stick on rock, tada! music and it's all relevent. But, using music from a past generation to make a social statement while playing into the hands of the very same people that music was up against and ignorring anything new, well that just seems a bit flakey.
     
  14. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I know that :D


    But he was surely not from the time of The Yardbirds, either.
     
  15. kristina777

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    I like older music because it's more mellow than what's on the radio today. I do, though, agree that some of it is more in tune with the older generations... A lot of top 40 music hurts my ears, literaly... but there is a LOT of newer stuff I listen to and most of it isn't played on the radio.
     
  16. KasabianRulesMan!

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    Oldies were often not after money or celebrity as so much people and plastic artist are today ... People in 60's and 70's mainly were after ...they wanted to built their own musical world and vision ...they can be influenced by others but follow for most of bands of the era an experimental way of doin' music with sometimes poetic lyrics...Now every girl want to be the new this the new that...They don't know why they want to sing ...they just love singin' but they don't have any artistic original deep visions of what their music will be...so the Production team work for them... I like a lot of modern music since the early 90's i think that rock is back but the most part of what they call rock is not the original rock and it's just funny rock, what naive people called rock is in fact metal now.

    I give you some date that gives you an indication of the evolution of rock music until now:


    1953-1962 Rock n Roll Days:

    1953 is the original year of birth of rock'n roll with "Rock around the Clock" more harder stuff follow quickly with Gene Vincent, Chuck Berry and Early Presley, Eddie Cochran and the more melodist Buddy Holly. Most of them died very young, the death of the last two with Chuck Berry in jail and Praisley in the Army almost killed rock'n roll real rebels and by the end of the 50's nearly only commercial rock n roll artists/bands were still playin' ...the system as in modern days understand very quickly how to do money with a movement and pervert it ...so from 1958 to 1962 were mainly the days of commercial rock n roll.

    1963-1966: The Beatlemania or British boom

    Rock n roll was goin in the wrong way...but then those Liverpool guys came and change a lot of things , fastly The Hollies, The Searchers, The Dave Clark Five etc...were famous everywhere and by 1964 an other wave of british bands influence by blues or rythmn blues mainly (there's no connection with plastic modern r'n'b) as The Rolling Stones, The Pretty Things, The Troggs or Then or The Animals, The Who etc...became famous.
    An American answer came since 1965 with the Beach Boys who in this year were evolvin' very fastly with Wilson experimentin' his arrangements, just one year before Pet Sounds. The Byrds and Assocation, the mamas and the papas join the army. A movement was growin and evolvin soon under different skies

    summer1966-1973 Rock n roll Golden Age or Psychedelic lanscape for our ears

    Since the summer 1966 , music was evolvin faster, The Cream ,Jefferson Airplane just release their first album...The Beatles(Revolver) and The Byrds (Fifth dimention)and The Beach Boys (Pet sounds lp), The Rolling Stone (Aftermath) all those bands release a sort of progressive sound becomin' more psychedelic and the movement is born this summer (even if since 65 a few bands were rarely experementin strange and original sounds). All those album are really important to what will came after ,this is the base of a growin psychedelic machin who until the end of 1968 will be called as the psychedelic years ...After until 1973 Rock bands still largely influenced by psyche stuff and original music but the musical texture change and bands were travelin' in diferent worlds but with a connection in their vue and opinion in their style of life and in their musical influence.
    So since 1969 hard rock is born(deep purple,black sabbath,led zep);the road bands with similar sounds (doobie brothers,the stones,allman brotha,the byrds since 1969,the flyin' burritos brotha etc...); early punk bands (the New York dolls, MC5, the stooges); Progressive (pink floyd,hawkwind,caravan..etc).


    1974-1976 The transition


    Glam rock mark the decline of rock or his evolution (Slade, Bowie,Reed,Roxy Music,Queen), Rock was became a business (the bands win more money year after years). And by the Mid 70's the cocaine consumption was already becomin priority of the drugs abuse. Psychedelic stuff were still in vogue until 79-82 ...it depends in which side of which land....in big cities or in middle town into the country. Cocaine clearly mark the decline (if you look at Aerosmith or Eagles discography you know that something happen in their 1976 egoTour)


    1977-1982 the Cold Years

    Since a few year rock n' roll was becomin' comfortable and sometimes rich...there was a rift between poor young british teens and traditional rich rock n roll star. With a Petrol Crisis in 1976 the things start to evolve underground . The Patti Smith Group and The Ramones were probably the seeds in 1976 of what will came the followin' year in UK.
    The Sex Pistols, The Damned, The Stranglers, The Clash , The Buzzcocks , The Jam was this new generation ...the movement evolve by himself and by 1979 a new movement cold wave/new wave emerge with Joy Division,U2, Echo & The Bunnymen,The Cure etc.
    Until 1982 the things were still right for rock n roll even for Hard rock who since 1977 and the Punk Wave evolve in a more hard way than before but until 1982 bands like AC/DC or Judas Priest, Black Sabbath or Whitesnake were doin' good rock n roll...
    but tomorrow i will explain you what happen after...called

    the horrific years of rock n' roll 1983-1990
     
  17. Shell

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    I listen to the oldies because it is better than most of the music produced today. There was some really original stuff being made and lyrics were important. Today all that really matter is half naked girls on the front of cd covers and rap musicians that I could never relate to.
     
  18. dayafterpuberty

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    the truth is, that most music made today just sounds the same, or just plain sucks. I like the oldies becuase its what i grew up with. I didnt grow up in that era, but thats what my parents listened to all the time. History seems to repeat itself. And, I think when I have kids, their generation will be listening to the same music as I.
     
  19. localhippy

    localhippy Senior Member

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    i hope your house burns down and you die

    stop hatin because oldies rocks! go watch more mtv
     
  20. pagansrule!

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    Heres your answer: 'CAUSE NEW MUSIC SUCKS!!!!!
     

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