why do you tolerate female irrationality?

U all suck

 

You have my sympathies. I have my own insecurities about growing old and unwanted, but I seem to be dealing with them well lately. I wish you luck.

 

They won't know you are asking.

The oldest and ugliest men are still in demand because women tend to live so much longer. Go in any retirement home, and you'll see the old geezers get treated like rock stars by the widows.

Many older women get increasingly attached to the idea of monogamy because they fear they won't be able to attract men a few years down the road, so it becomes more important to hang on to whoever they've got right now.

By the way, you guys have been talking as if sexual monogamy and emotional monogamy are the same thing. They aren't. I've known men who physically cheated on their wives without getting attached to the younger partners. The wife doesn't always get dumped. The old guys and the young girls have very little to talk about, besides sex. And yes, those girls are more emotional and impulsive than women who are beyond menopause.

I used to be "the other woman" when I was under 30, so when I get old, I will have no right to complain when I get cheated on. I know it goes both ways. I'll just want him to wear a condom.

 

Thanks for the support and understanding. It's a right of passage going from being attractive to invisible. There are worse things, at least I have my health. Good luck to meridian west in his pursuits. This was suppose to be about him and it became a pmt whine of my own...I really appreciate the feedback. Thanks

 

No, your points are relevant to the topic. When women feel as if they are forced to play a game they can't win, they sometimes express their frustrations in nonconstructive ways. You can't really talk about behaviors without addressing the things that motivate them.

My problem with the OP was the stereotype; the idea that all women have an intolerable problem with the way they handle things. If I've learned anything from traveling and from being online, it's that there is a lot more diversity in the world than I once thought possible. There's no accurate generalization that can be made about any large group, such as the female 50% of the population.

It is an absolute fact that if you live a normal lifespan, you will not be able to always look as good as the hottest 20-somethings. You can handle this knowledge in some irrational way that only makes the situation worse, such as trying to impose idealistic rules on your partner, or you can use your head and come up with a game plan that has a chance of working. There are reasons why this guy is still with you. He likes things about you that he doesn't see in the young hotties. Figure out what they are, and make the most of them.

Probably the worst thing you can do is take comfort from a group of women agreeing with each other that "men shouldn't be like this", and "we don't have to tolerate their shit". When has that approach ever worked?

 

Should be a bumper sticker..

 

In a platonic relationship? Ignore them. Trust me, I've tried everything else, ignoring them works best. Often they notice they are being ridiculous, but only after you've ignored them for a while. It works out because I move on with my life and she learns to go after someone/something else for her fix.

How do I put up with it in a romantic relationship? I don't. No woman is so awesome, so spectacular, that I will put up with her psychotic episodes and lower my own quality of life. Life is too short to be miserable. I'm not a professional psychologist/neurologist, I don't know how to treat mental illnesses, but I do know that if you hang around crazy long enough you risk a high chance of damaging your own mental health.

Like the my elders used to tell me: "Es mejor estar solo que mal acompañado".(It is better to be alone than in bad company.)

 

Well, this is an interesting topic, and some of the resulting posts aren't surprising. Esp. given the gender gap we now have. Women have Feminism, now in its Third Wave.
In my experiences, modern Feminism is far removed from the original standard.

The reason I say this is, the logical reasoning behind it has been lost through the years. Third-wave Fem seems now just a raging display of automatic entitlement to a man my age.
After my experiences with this type in the workplace and what became of my marriage (we worked together), some women will gang up on a good man just for being truthful about it
and will stop at nothing to bring him down. I had a stroke at work because of some of this mindset. I actually heard the two worst offenders later say they may have been a bit too
hard on me. (ya THINK?) lmao...

After this, I've had bankruptcy, a divorce and four years living with my folks and my daughter, and plenty of time to realize what went wrong. My putting up with it and a few of my
reactions to the craziness was my fault, much of it was hers in allowing people to come between us in the name of Power.

I have become MGTOW (men going their own way). This should not be taken wrong by anyone, in my life it simply means I have taken back control of my own life, I am now investing
my time and resources with the hobbies that please me, without being aimed away from myself by a "leader of the house" who considers her interests number one and mine a waste of
money. Yes this is how it was. I am a changed man. Never again will I cower to another mate and disrespect myself.

This is why I make the distinctions of first, second and third wave of feminism. The first two would not have done this to me. I know those kind and they still have a heart for
their man. The last ones could care less, it's "all about them". Speaking from experience.

As a MGTOW, I am pursuing my true interests, remembering who "I" am, and learning via the internet and personal counseling, how to deal with the world and more importantly, how
to find a suitable mate in the future. I'm fixing what I can fix about myself to make myself the best man I can be for my own good.

For a simple definition and quote to finding a good mate, "We need to find a mate who is the same level of Crazy as we are".

 

For men interested in online videos on this subject, on Youtube check out Sandman, Howard Dare and Karen Straughan, and especially Paul Elam.

Paul's comment about gals "looking for a malleable wallet with a penis" I found especially funny...he may come across a bit harsh but sometimes that's what it takes to get a man's
attention. He's making the distinction between selfish women, and the good ones and how the selfish ones are ruining the game for the good women.

Note that I am not putting this info here to stir up women, rather to enlighten abused man. No intention of offending anyone.
We must all look for an appropriate way to live life to the fullest. I have always been a hippie in spirit and wish harm to none, just trying to help those in need. Blessings...

 

Well that's no surprise, you seem a lot calmer than most people.

Try dating one.

 

I dont remember posting this haha, but my opinion hasnt changed much. I still think dudes are just as moody and emotional

I am pretty calm though, in general i dont really tolerate histrionics from men or women. And i choose my female friends carefully so i have a very positive view of other women because the ones I know are pretty awesome.

 

Socrates was famous as the wisest man in the world, yet, he married one of the most vicious shrews in all of Athens. When asked why, he said he didn't marry her for conversation.

 

https://youtu.be/xIqYDl7EhRc

Paul Elam- "Where all the good Men Went.

He doesn't sugar coat his message, but speaks the truth nonetheless.

 

Well, women werent really allowed to do anything outside of the house in ancient Athens, so there's that too.

 

Emotion and rationality are not necessarily mutually exclusive. For instance, if one gets in a passionate debate regarding whether or not the Earth is round, it doesn't make the argument any less rational if the person raises their voice in an irritated or angry tone, while making a clear, cogent argument.

Someone told me last week that she will cry on her period when she thinks of whales. I think this an example of the kind of, for lack of a better term "disjointed" emotional sensitivity that is often what guys are referring to when talking about female irrationality.

 

Sometime you gotta take some time to cry about whales dude, it makes perfect sense

 

The Greeks were so sexist they didn't even allow women to do the cooking considering them to be too incompetent. Not that I recommend that kind of lifestyle, but if all you care about is getting laid there are certainly ways to do so. In Socrates' case he was among the poorest and ugliest little guys in all Athens and just getting married must have been a challenge.

 

LOL @ the guys in this thread

If the females seem irrational its only because they can't use direct confrontation against you

 

You mean like a child?

 

Sticks and stones may hurt my bones, so please don't throw sticks and stones!