Why do we reward stupidity?

So, you've never seen a hungry fat guy speeding through a busy Mc Donalds Drive through? Honestly, i'm lucky to be alive

had I not jumped out of my window, I probably would have gone through it. I've had twelve cars written off this way.

 

All I'm saying is that many people turn a blind eye towards blatant stupidity, but then pick on other forms.

BBAD brought up drug addicts. Perfect example. Many people look down upon them, oppose safe injection sites, think of them as garbage, yet when it comes time for the smoker to receive an iron lung or the alcoholic to receive some form of health care, nobody says shit.

We have accepted that it is okay for some whom we deem worthy to receive certain care while others don't. Why do we shit all over the smoker but not the obese person? Why refer to a drug user as a junkie, but the man who wanders from bar to bar on a friday night is not a drunk?

Someone asked what's the reward?

The reward is getting decent health care and legal "rights".

 

I agree and disagree concerning this case. One thing it did accomplish was the requirement of fast food resturants to make available the nutritional information regarding the food they serve. Prior to that case it was not mandatory.

Have you ever seen the documentary "Super Size Me" ?
A guy sets out to only eat McDonald's food for 30 days. His doctors made him stop early because of the alarming amount of weight gain and liver damage they started to see.
But the most interesting thing that stuck for me was the fact that after about a week he "needed" the food to feel good. He got an endorphin rush from eating it, and then would crash hard a few hours later, and would only feel good upon eating more McDonald's food. His Doctors following this experiment likened it to drug addiction.
Not saying that McDonald's is spiking their food to create addicts, but he did appear to develope an "addiction" to the food to some extent.

Interesting stuff.

 

Here's another example of stupidity that's handsomely rewarded. Reality tv. How many here watch it? Be honest. People love watching Cro-Magnon fucking idiots run around half dressed on tv, thus giving them ratings and money. REWARDING their stupidity! Then turn around and point their fingers at smokers, drug users, and the obese.

 

I understand where you're coming from, but think of it this way. The surgeon general's warning on cigarettes are there to warn people of the dangers involved with smoking. We hear all the time of how bad they are for us. Why not with fast food? Who needs nutritional value? There should be warnings to not eat it, "WARNING; This food has the same potential to kill you as those cigarettes you smoke." People don't need nutritional facts, they need to be told not to eat it. We tell our children not to smoke pot, not to use drugs. Yet we tell them it's okay to eat fast food once in awhile. Fuck that. Tell them it's okay to use drugs once in awhile, see how that goes. We as a society are goddamn hypocrites! All those who are so against smoking will turn around and go eat at Wendy's next week.

I have seen that movie. It was very interesting.

 

Now vig honey I want you to stop everything your doing and slowly read out loud what you said in these two posts. Take some time and let it sink in.
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Do you see how completely asinine your remarks are.
Why would an obese person be any more of a drain on the health care system and cause "everybody to pay for it" more than the drug addicts and moms who don't have insurance?
What if the obese person HAS insurance, are they still a drain on the system more than a drug addict who doesn't have any insurance?


Honey, I think your dreads are twisted a little too tight.


Hey lunaverse, what do we have as a reward for vig today?

 

You make a good enough point. True story

my fat friend makes fun of me for going to the gym. He says I go too much, I say he should shut up.

Everybody, to some point in their lives are acting hypocritical, people are different- but for others to shamelessly bash another because of a society given stereotype, it's wrong.

Someone might hate smoking, maybe because a parents smokes a lot, but should I tell them that when their spouse eventually gets lung cancer they deserve to die? Nuh-uh.

 

My friend, if I punched myself in the mouth and knocked out my tooth, would you tell me that I deserved that? If you answer no, then why the hell not?


People are sensitive towards things they have been through in the past. This most often clouds our objective judgment. If someone watches a loved one die from cancer they turn around and hate smokers, but they don't mind fast food and cellphones (which by the way do affect everyone). See, our hypocrisy clouds our judgment.

If someone has deliberately hurt themselves to the point where they are now close to death, why should we be soft about it? They CHOSE to do that shit to themselves. Of course you're not going to say, "That's what happens you asshole, you should have known better." But at the same time it would be stupid to say, "What a tragedy, this isn't right. It's not your time."


We shouldn't be hypocrites just because we're sensitive to certain issues.

 

As stupid as I hope I am not, I am going to vacate the internet for a moment because I about to watch some reality TV with a take away my father has just brought home

Luna, when I return you can ask me some simple mental arithmetic and note the results

 

Common sense has been traded in for complacency.

 

I couldn't care less about what people eat, watch, drink, smoke, shoot, or inject. All I'm saying is that we should be honest about things. Not hypocritical.

 

They make air you can huff at your desk, you dont need to go outside ..

 

The problem I have is with people who feel the need to point things out to others. I mean, people who smoke know the health risks, people who are obese know the health risks - why should another person have to keep saying things to them?

Recently there have been threads about weight, so bigger people have been getting a tough time, it isn't only smokers.

The chances are every person does something that has some risk or concern, so it would be hypocritical to start going on at a smoker about the concerns smoking has.

If I smoke, take drugs, eat a bag of chocolate, what is it to you? It's my body, I know the risks. People should just leave others alone.

 

I completely agree. I just think that we shouldn't say that any one is worse or more or less acceptable than another. To say that one is common and understandable but another isn't is just plain ignorant.

 

HAHAHA That's great. I have worked in retail and in bars. A couple of times after a difficult customer a coworker has said "Ahhh, what a jerk!! I need a cigarette." That kinda pissed me off, but my boss wouldn't do anything. I guess in the future, I'm could tell bosses that I need to go have a wank break, or else the massive trouser monster is going to bulge in my pants and could offend female customers.

 

We reward stupidity because we mistake such excessive tolerance for compassion.

 

I'm honestly not sure what you are proposing here.
If the message of this thread is "don't be a hypocrite" then, not only is that message obvious, but also impossible.

 

Pick your damn poison in life. It is free choice and you get to deal with the ultimate health consequences from that.

The money means nothing. Tell a millionaire who could afford any treatment that there is no treatment for them as it is too late. Tell anyone who is ill that you consider them not to be deserving as you are such a moral superior.

When being critical of someone else's poison, take a long hard look at why you think you have the right to do so. If you do not ingest anything that is considered to be a cause of health risks, or partake in any activity that is, then perhaps you can lecture.

If not, then perhaps you should instead clean up your own health and mind your own business.

 

Bingo.

In turn we can feel better about ourselves. Some people go to church on the weekend, feel good about it, but don't practice actually being a good person all throughout the week. Some point their finger at a smoker, then go home, leave all the lights on, sit around watching dog the bounty hunter eating doritos on the couch. That's fine if that's what they want to do. But the finger pointing, soft language and artificial pat on the back compassion has to go.

 

I'm obese. I used to smoke. My smoking usually took me to the walk in clinic every 4-6 months for antibiotics due to an ear or lung infection because I'm a smoker.

I have never, ever had to "abuse" the healthcare system because of my obesity, or make you pay for it because you're "healthy". If anything, I completely avoid the doctor if possible because they look at my weight instead of my health. Don't tell me that I'm going to drain your bank account because I'm fat. I have decent cholesterol, low to average blood sugar and great blood pressure and I'm still a fat mother fucker!!

Obesity has become the biggest legal discrimination because it's supposedly preventable. My boyfriend and girlfriend both are of poor health, though they are of average weight, yet I'm the one who gets the nod for being the strain on the healthcare system that I don't use. Quitting smoking changed my life and my health. I know that losing weight wouldn't hurt anything, but my smoking would have drained your wallet, not my ass.

And it's MY stupidity that's supposedly being rewarded?