Why do we ignore the homeless?

wtf? where did you infer that?
i have lived it. how did this become a conversation about racial segregation? we are talking about homeless people, which you obviously equate with blacks. there are statistics that more than half of blacks would gladly live in an integrated neighborhood while less than half of whites would do the same. gee i wonder where you fall?

you're not real. you're uneducated. and you are pretty dern racist.

 

The face of the homeless has changed in the last decade. Today it is families.

You can walk by a drunk, druggie, deranged person, can you walk by a child and still feel that they deserve what they get?

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/526/homeless-facts.html

 

this whole disagreement hasn't been about homelessness. we've gone off on a tangent about racial inequality.

as far as homelessness, i've "lived it" too, but i really don't think that has much to do with what we're talking about. you were implying that any low income neighborhood was the same as a black neighborhood, which anyone who's ever spent a substantial amount of time in a black neighborhood would tell you isn't true. stop trying to twist things and let's have a straight up discussion here.

at my old high school, there was a huge community of black people that refused to associate with everyone else. it was self imposed segregation.

i can understand a group of people wanting to associate with those like them. it's actually a natural sociological tendency. but it doesn't really help much when you're a black guy trying to make it in america when you really don't know how to associate with people outside your 95% black neighborhood. and i dunno about your town, but there are plenty of low-income neighborhoods around here that aren't just blacks. it's a choice.

 

Right on. :2thumbsup: I once saw a young woman (with a small child) asking for spare change for food. All of a sudden, this half-crazed suburban woman started ranting at her about child abuse. The child became frightened (with good reason) and started to cry. Sort of makes you wonder who really was abusing whom?

QP

 

call me racist all you want, vigilante. i've heard black people say the same shit i'm arguing to you right now. if anything you're ignorant and sheltered, which is understandable. i probably would have taken your side of this argument 5-6 years ago.

 

avoidance of the majority is typical of minority groups. minority group members may avoid contacts with the majority b/c it reminds them of their subordination. they may also turn to other types of avoidance, such as drugs or alcohol.

you can't separate race from poverty; it is the culture of poverty in the US. that is not to say that there are not poor white people, but they are not racial minorities.

how are low income neighborhoods different from black neighborhoods?

also, have you ever studied the concept of housing discrimination, white flight, gentrification?
it's real, and it is not segregation on the part of racial minorities, it is de facto discrimination on the part of real estate workers and bureaucrats.


why do you question my own life experience so much? i'm older than you and i've lived a life of need and poverty. i love the condescending tone to add to your fluffy argument. great strategy.

 

Don't tie this sort of attitude with me. Failure to assimilate??? Sounds like that old line from "Cool Hand Luke": "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

Hard to assimilate when you have doors and gates locked in your face.

 

Well shit... it all makes sense now...

He's not racist... he's borg...

 

damn i wish i could rep you again tom

 

too many far-left folk like to exaggerate state-mandated racial inequality. jim crowe was a long time ago. we've got a black president. hell, blacks have an easier time getting into college than any other race. sure there's still racism. probably always will be. but "the system" isn't to blame for any group's problems. it's just a stupid excuse paranoid angry blacks and ignorant bleeding hearts like to perpetuate. i'm done here.

 

Actually no the system has a lot of the blame since the system is not the independent entity, it's people, and people are the problem.

 

Very good historical assessment. The only thing I would like to add is the 80s federal defunding of psychological services and the move to deinstitutionalize all mental patients who were non-violent. Most of them were not able to support themselves and the funding did not follow them to their new homes, on the streets. So, those who were once cared for by society are now among those who beg table scraps and suffer the ostracism of those who are more fortunate.

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The main point I was making though, was that there was a time when homelessness was rare and we didn't seem to mind providing for others. It happenned once, it could take hold again. We just have to get over the idea that voting anyone off the island is necessarily the best decision. If we work together our combined efforts can be so much better than the result of a single "actor".

I am waiting for a tv show that glamorizes the inclusion of everyone.

 

Oh, as for ignoring the homeless... some of us have an open offer of a home for those that want to share the work...

 

too bad you couldn't back up any of your racist opinions with actual facts or statistics. keep running away.
good riddance!

 

Not two words I'd use to describe her. She seems quite informed and compassionate (to me). :sunny:

QP

 

I remember when that happenned. It was one of Reagan's cost cutting measures carried on by further administrations all in the interests of cutting taxes for businesses. I think the often used euphamism was "mainstreaming".

http://www.sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html

 

thanks i know my shit.

 

vigilante, wanna be even more informed? start hanging out in urban black neighborhoods. experience is the mother of all teachers after all.

 

i have you piece of shit. i'm here right now!