Why do the national libertarians keep reminding me of the Nazis?

Discussion in 'Libertarian' started by Balbus, Jul 18, 2005.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Not intentionally huh? The Rothschilds were the richest and most powerful family in the world at the time, and they still are today. (But don't expect to hear them mentioned in the mainstream media.) Yet, you believe that Hitler exercised control over the Rothschilds and their elite minions, who, through their various banks and institutions were funding the Nazi war machine the entire time?

    Do you believe that the Bush/bin Laden relations are also just "an accident"?

    Skip, please, read the book Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony Sutton. I guarantee it will cause you to look at things differently.

    And how did Hitler even get the power in the first place to steel property from the Jews? Did he just wake up one morning and say "I'm gonna take their land?"

    You operate on the idea that world leaders - who have always been simply puppets for a much greater power - have controlled their own destiny. The fact is that Hitler - like Bush and bin Laden - was merely a tool of a hidden hand that has controlled world events for at least the past 100 years.

    You're still missing the bigger picture, Skip.
     
  2. jim_w

    jim_w Member

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    was merely a tool of a hidden hand that has controlled world events for at least the past 100 years.
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    Must... resist... tool... joke...

    Seriously though - where's the evidence for this?
     
  3. m6m

    m6m Member

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    Latent Homo-sexuality is allowed to express its desires freely through Business.

    Only Fearless Braves feel like prisoners when surrounded by the bend-over hierarchies of Business, Religion or Politics.

    However, for the grasping anal-retentive Civilized Man, hierarchy is an effective way to satisfy deep-seated homo-erotic desires.
     
  4. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    LMAO! Great theory!

    You left out one very important bend-over-hierarchy: the military!

    You gotta bend over & spread 'em, cause I got more stars on my collar.

    Yes, sex and power (and abuse) all go hand in ...er... well, something goes in something, I know that.
     
  5. m6m

    m6m Member

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    When looking at the Military Establishment One sees the same strategies at work.

    The strategy most often used by Primates is deception.

    So whenever One sees a deceptive Death-Drive at work, such as in Military Establishments, its motivation will be a neurotic preoccupation with Death-Fear.

    Moreover, the deeper psycho-sexual motivations behind any Hierarchy will reveal itself by deceptively indirect means.

    For example, in one man's submissive obedience to another, we are witnessing a symbolic act of sodomy.

    An entire Nation that commits constant symbolic acts of sodomy in their mutual everyday relations will naturally possess a strong Military desire.
     
  6. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    nevermind
     
  8. Peterness

    Peterness Member

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    "Libertarians only consider economic freedom"

    Jesus man. Libertarians aren't fucking neo-conservatives which is what you and a billion other people here seem to believe. Sorry but it's so incredibly frustrating being pingeon holed with neo-cons, republicans, nazi's (laughable comparison) when actually libertarians have more in common with anarchists.

    "Libertarains only consider economic freedoms" is the strongest sweeping statement i've heard yet though, it must be said.

    Let's all have a little look at the very basic policies of the US Libertarian Party:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2000/us_elections/parties/930837.stm

    The Libertarian Party

    If the United States is the Land of the Free, created out of a hatred of overbearing government, it might seem surprising that libertarianism appears to make little impact on political life.

    In 1996 Libertarian presidential candidate Harry Browne managed less than 500,000 votes. Mr Browne, the party's candidate again, is hoping to more than double that this time.

    Formed in 1971, the Libertarian Party had 200 publicly elected officials by 1990, a figure that has moved slowly up to 270.

    Mr Browne, a 67-year-old investment adviser and writer, has a simple slogan - 'I Want You to be Free' - by which he means, free from government.

    As one adviser puts it, if there is a problem, the first question a Libertarian asks is not: "How can government solve it?" Instead Libertarians ask: "What government programme caused this problem to begin with, and what government programme must be eliminated to fix it?".

    Abolishing income tax, the social security system and the gun control laws are some of the policies resulting from that philosophy. Mr Browne is also campaigning to legalise prostitution and the ending of America's overseas military commitments.

    Mr Browne describes President Clinton's war on drugs as an "insane" policy that has "turned the drug business over to criminal gangs, locked up a million non-violent Americans... and spawned law enforcement corruption".

    Analysts say that while individual policies may have wide appeal, the overall package scares many, not least because so many people benefit from government projects that would be scrapped.

    Also many purist libertarians believe the idea of a libertarian running for government a contradiction in terms.

    The purists believe the best strategy is try and influence the existing parties' ways of thinking. They consider the Cato Institute, a libertarian Washington think tank, to be a successful example of libertarian thought having serious political impact.

    Libertarian Policies:

    Abolish income tax
    Legalise prostitution
    Recall all overseas US military
    Abolish social security system
    End gun control
    End drugs war

    How many of these are "economic freedoms"? Oh, let me see, all of 2 of them! The rest are very plainly "social freedoms" or for a better term deal with 'civil rights'.

    "Also, what about intellectual freedom? During much of the twentieth century it was dangerous to advocate socialism, criticize capitalism, and argue in favor of Soviet foreign policy. Libertarians often approved of those restrictions on the right to dissent."

    Libertarians believe passionately in free speech.

    The 'libertarians' you speak of here who oppose the right to dissent are not libertarians. They are basically using the term to get votes and public support. They are essentially full of shit. Like countries that use the term "democratic socialist republic of" are 99% of the time definitely not democratic...
    For example the 'libertarians in Canada who oppose drug prohibition. That contradicts the core libertarian philosophy; Libertarianism is a political philosophy or a family of related political philosophies based on very strong support for individual liberty. This includes the right to dissent.

    MMk?
     
  9. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    don't forget libertarian opposition to censorship, mandatory minimum sentencing, and the death penalty.
     

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