Why do people turn themselves in?

Guilt.

Owning up to a bad decision.

 

That is your prerogative. I didn't say you should embrace them like your brother... way to put words in my mouth. Attitudes like yours are what empowers the real thugs to continue taking freedoms away and to destroy what is left of our future. You're so busy hating on others and perpetuating the divisions that make us so easily conquerable. You strive to fan the flames of class hatred and distrust so there is no peace and safety in just walking down some streets... a problem people demand the government to do something about- which they do- at an incremental cost of freedoms and presumed innocence.

Yes, laws are necessary because some people are unable to behave themselves- you are quite correct there. Adopting such a hateful attitude towards others does absolutely nothing to solve the problem- it adds to it- and the presumed need for more law enforcement.

 

Maybe someone else knows about the crime and the guy figures it's better to turn himself in than to be turned in by someone else.

I've never heard of anyone turning themelves in over a small robbery.

 

Newsflash: Most people commit crimes out of necessity, not fun. Attitudes like this is why 1 in 99 Americans are currently in prison, that's a higher percent then China and Russia, China and fucking Russia. About 1 in 38 somewhere in the penal system.

 

No I think you'll find it's stupidity that is the cause of the problem here. It's got fuck all to do with whether or not I silently hate any of the cunts who sustain the death of modern culture with their ignorance.

I'm perpetuating fuck all by hating them. I tried once to embrace them and reason with them, but they wouldn't listen to me, because they are all brainless thugs who deserve to be put down.

So please forgive me for not embracing the world with the love of jesus in my heart, but you see I was bullied throughout the most of my life, starting with my teacher who had a fetish for picking on young kids who come from broken families. It all fucked me up slightly and resulted in my life eventually turning to shit, and now I have to deal with that, without anything nice to smoke at the moment I might add. Another thing that has been taken away from me by the state.

Sorry but this is getting too personal now, but please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting that I am as bad as they are. What the original comment that sparked all this off was saying is 100% right IMO. If you look at many long lost civilisations throughout the history their demise is often preceded by the introduction of more and more yet laws, which further exacerbate the problems they purport to solve. It's not rocket science mate, it's a pretty simple concept to understand.

Thank you for that captain obvious. :eggnog:

 

i honestly think paranoia sets in. Anywhere they go they have to watch their back. Even if they dont know who did it. or guilt

 

Willful stupidity if it is the cultural and socioeconomic problem you're alluding to... and your hatred is anything but silent. At best it's a very thin veil you're pulling over it.

It was not my intent to suggest anyone embrace anything aside from the shared destiny at the hands of the establishment. It seems that the media aim to demonize them has worked nicely with you. Perpetuating the notion that they "deserve" repression just divides us up completely. the more friction that can be perpetuated with subdivisions being emphasized, the fewer potential people can go to bat for you when it's your turn to be repressed.

It is clearly not forgiveness you're after here so that broke the sarcasm meter... and again, I'm not suggesting that anyone ascribe to such a naive notion as embracing anything... more live and let live.

You don't want to have your intelligence insulted yet you persist in mis-characterizing what I've had to say about this and otherwise paint me as naive and blindly idealistic? You come across as a divider- inadvertently working to further the divide and conquer cultural strategy that the establishment has used with such great success to get us to repress ourselves- too fully immersed in petty infighting to even comprehend what is being taken away from us in the name of security, safety, and economic growth.

Thank you oh so much for pointing out the simple concept and suggesting that I need you to clarify what I'm too dense to comprehend. I know all about how a supposedly free civilization can collapse under the weight of numerous new laws that rob its citizens of freedom... what the fuck do you think I'm writing about here?

You complain about it getting too personal after being so condescending and acerbic? Isn't that ever the pot calling the kettle black?

 

Are there any thugs on this site? I'd guess not, if there were any they probably would have got banned. So who the fuck then is going to hear my thoughts then, or care? I'm not hurting anyone by voicing my hatred in this site. In that respect my hatred is silent.

It's nothing to do with the media. They are thugs and deserve no respect from anyone. They use violence and coercion to get their own way. They are the cause of the problem.

I didn't say anything about repression. Society has already judged them anyway. I said the world would be better off without them altogether, and that's no lie.

Uhh yeah, live and let live, there's an idea. So why don't these thugs fuck off and let me live my life then?

I'm not doing anything to them. I just hate them. I have every right to hate them and to vociferate my hatred for them. I am not alone. It's their fault that I hate them.

No mate, you are the one who is misconstruing my opinion here. I'm not alluding towards anything that involves violence.

I got your point. But me hating the people who are causing the problem isn't going to make any difference.

You see though this is the problem I have whatever I do and whatever I say someone always comes along and tried to put me down. You are just another in a long line, don't think I can't see through you. This happens to me because I let it, and it's normally people who are insecure in their own selves who do this.

p.s. I'd probably neg rep you for all this, but you'd likely return it with even more negativity, because you are a bully.

 

So how exactly is this hate helpful? How exactly does this hate not just continuously perpetuate a society that demonizes people and makes people have to resort to violence in the first place? Perhaps you are part of the problem.

 

It isn't helpful.

In what way exactly it is unhelpful though seems to elude me.

Hate is a thought. Thoughts cannot cause anyone any harm, unless they are turned into actions.

Please note here the difference between thoughts and actions.

Do you think I am a vicious thug?

 

If I were a bully you would not be able to read and respond. I suggest you pick your words more wisely and not resort to personal attacks.

As far as the debate, I'm finished with it. Clearly neither of us will move the other so anything further would only degenerate this discussion. What you've had to say does deserve to be said because it is part of the issue. I do not agree with you but seeing as I've said my piece I'll only take exception to your tendency to launch personal attacks on those of us you choose to not respect.

 

Pick my words wisely?

A curiously Orwellian threat for a free speech site, don't you think.

And who exactly have I "personally attacked", I'd really like to know?

You can message me if you like about that, I'd like to take issue with that accusation.

 

I don't think you're a vicious thug but since Orwell came up, Orwell would greatly disagree on the idea of thoughts not being potentially harmful. Thoughts lead to actions.

Sanity is not statistical.

 

Thoughts donot always lead to actions, and who is to say that negative thoughts cannot lead to positive actions?

 

Calling another poster a bully is disrespect... as well as a personal attack

Pushing the boundaries and making it difficult for others to maintain a forum where people are supposed to feel free to post what's on their mind is akin to drawing a bulls-eye on your back.

You don't see accusing me of being a bully as a personal attack?

You are being pointlessly divisive and appear to be trying to pick a fight with me. If I were given to abusing authority as you seem keen on characterizing me, you'd be gone now.

 

Well done for proving me wrong then. I'll be careful what I say to you from now on.

 

the real reason is because drama is about ego and ego is about wanting an audience.

 

If I didn't want an audience I would just sit in my room writing my memoirs.

 

It's perfectly ok to disagree with me and I do fully understand being without weed can set one on edge... I've kept that in mind here. The thing is that I try to take great pains NOT to abuse moderator status here so accusing me otherwise in response to my differences of opinion struck a nerve. Unlike the teacher you cited, not all are intent on bullying.

If I could I'd smoke you up.... :sifone:

 

Fair enough. We're probably both arguing the same point anyway, from slightly different angles.