why do people post anti-religion posts here?

OK, Skip and Sera Michele pretty much summed up anything further I had to say, I'm spent. But I'll be watching...

 

So, most Christians are evil. I mean your inlaws are cool. But, the rest are evil? Good stuff. LOL BTW If any other Christians wanted to help me out at all I'd appreciate it.

 

Who here said evil?

Seems like it's christians that are always going on about evil...

 

You said various things that strongly implied evil. Reread your posts. If I misunderstood I apologize.

 

well im with him, i dont get it either, i really dont, i mean u never see christians going in the pagan forums and being like ohhh theres no such thing as the god and goddess or something like that. its seems a bit odd

 

But, mrsmorrison, in a more direct analogy, they do go into the atheist thread and say there is a god.

Its not the pagans giving the christians a hard time. This is an "anti religion" post, that would imply atheists and religion in debate, last I checked, paganism was a religion.

Wrong analogy.

 

This is a public internet forum, and a liberal one at that. You complainers seem like you are looking for a church. You're in the wrong place.

And portal, I never called or implied christians were evil. I just don't like the religion and it's message, and don't like the pious, self-righteous attitude of the majority of the chiristians I've met. I really get tired of them looking down on everybody, and I think the religious message often perpetuates intolerance and ignorance - a message that says that if you aren't with us you deserve eternal punishment. It's very segregating. Good morals and ethics can be part of a culture without the rest of the dogma that comes with your beliefs. There's no reason to perpetuate the idea in our society that the people who choose not believe like you are somehow evil and deserving of eternal torture after death. It isn't a very tolerant message, not matter how you try to sugar it up with your "do onto others..." and "turn the other cheek."

 

First off a group of people who are intolerant are evil. The words are synonymous to me. So, if you say I'm an intolerant Christian. Which you did. That implies I'm evil. You proved my point in your own thread. You said your in laws are Christians who are really good people. So, all Christians aren't what you claim them to be. Those are certain types of Christians. I'll give you an example about what I mean. Is racism ok? Is sexism ok? Of course it's not. It's horrible to put a blanket statement over a group of people. Is Mother Theresa evil? Are the people who helped Tsunami and Hurricane victims evil? Is the Salvation Army evil? Are the peace loving Quakers evil? What about the gay Episcopalian Archbishop? Or the local archbishops fighting for immigrant rights? All these
people are evil? You're smarter than that. I'm sorry you hold a chip on your shoulder from the church you were brought up in. I truly do. I realize a bunch of "Christian" churches claim to speak for Christ but it comes off uberintolerant and vicious. But, it's not all like that. If you need specific websites I'd be happy to give them to you.

 

Actually, Heron I think she was talking about people in general coming on this forum lashing out at Christians. Something Pagans have done in the past.

 

Christians have a forum where they can tell us that their "way" is right, all other gods are false.....and if their God is the "one" then he'll bung us in a burning hell for even thinking against their beliefs.

Therefore, the rest of us should have the right to tell them they are wrong.....*and they can stick their ideas and beliefs up their arses


*although some do this more eliquently than i usually bother.

 

I don't think you're going to hell for your beliefs. I think you're going to hell for having a disco avatar. I'm telling God.

 

Tell him....... His own son looks like a beegee's groupie....he can't criticise

although He left him nailed to two planks of wood and left to slowly suffocate....mebbe i should be scared!

 

yeah true. eehh what do i know im just a kid

 

Not all Christians are bad, one of my best friends is a devout christian. But on the other hand, so many are that people have begun to equate all christians with the vocal majority. And I say majority because while i have met some wonderful christians, the majority are rather intolerant. and even some of the kind ones can get wierd if you tell them you are not a christian.

Just today 2 ladies from the local baptist church showed up at my door, disturbing my time with my family. I tried to be polite and tell them I was NOT interested in them picking up my kids on thier bus (I thought it was funny they never invited me, just my young impressionable children) Then upon finding out that we are not a christian household, they wanted to pray with me WTF, I just told them I didn't believe in thier way. So I finally politely, but firmly asked them to leave and the sit outside my door praying for another 5 minutes. My kids were like "momma who's that, can you make them leave" I thought it was very disrespectful of them.

But I won't dislike all christians just because most of them are ignorant of where thier beliefs actually came from, or realise that they are closer to paganism than the pagans they damn. Perhaps if most christians could intelligently answer a question about their religion without getting super offended and resorting to personal attacks, or giving me the standard answer,that is what my pastor said, I would have more patience with them.

 

Granted, but still inaccurate, i have had several run-ins on the pagan threads.

 

I think all the time invested in this thread would be better served if all the anti-Christians would start by answering one simple question: "What is a Christian?" And by that, I mean what are the basic tenets of Christianity--what makes a person a Christian. Once that's answered, then perhaps we could begin asking if being a Christian necessarily entails the negative traits that seem to anger so many people here. We could also find out if many of those displaying these traits are even Christian at all.

 

Until I'm not looked at as a weirdo or a satanist when people find out I am an atheist I don't think I need to give any respect to the christian religion or it's message. People treat me like I am sad, or sick, or some kind of museum exibit when they find out I don't believe in any god, and I'm here living in liberal college town Austin.

I don't not like people because they are christian. All people are individuals, and I treat them that way. I just don't like the message of their religion, and I think it encourages the self-righteous, intolerant attitude that's rampant among christianity today, and in the past. I don't think it's members are evil. I think the intolerance comes from ignorance and misguidance, not evil.

I am talking about christianity and it's effect on the masses in general. That doesn't mean I still don't realize there are individuals. There are individuals that do great things, but that doesn't excuse the religious message and it's overall effect on people. That charity, that good christians do, can be encouraged and accomplished without all the dogma, judgement, intolerance, and self-righteousness your religion brings to the table. I'm saying that the bible, the messages within it, are encouraging this intolerant attitude towards other's that you see so often in the christian religion. I don't like the religious message christians preach, which when you come down to it is ultimately that if you don't believe like us you deserve eternal punishment. That's the blanket I am putting over christianity, the same one it has given itself. I am not sterotyping a group of people, and not making christianity any different that it claims itself to be. I am telling you that I despise their message. It is one of intolerance, plain and simple - regardless all the chairtiy work they may do.

BTW, I don't have a chip on my shoulder, but it was a nice way to try to stick a personal jab in there. I am giving the reasons why I speak out against christianity, which was asked for. You guys are the one who are wondering why people post anti-religious stuff here, that implies you wanted a better understanding of why people have problems with christianity. I'm offering you all what you wanted. But is seems what you REALLY wanted is to make us feel wrong...typical christians

 

It wasn't a personal jab. I'm sorry you took it that way. It seems that you have a chip on your shoulder. Again Sera...Read your posts. What would you conclude if you were on the outside looking in.

 

That I am giving an explanation of why I do not like a particular religion or care for it's participants in a thread that is asking why people post anti-religion posts in this forum.

Now, if you saw me in every thread here bashing your religion then you could probably assume I had some sort of chip on my shoulder.

 

The fact that you've argued with me about this for pages on an internet forum aren't an indication of a strong resentment? Sera God bless you. This is my last post with you on this matter.