Why Do Non-Christians Do Moral Things?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by tumbling.dice, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. Deidre

    Deidre Visitor

    Because morality is subjective and has nothing to do with religion.
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    but some Pagans still make animal sacrifices. How is that good or moral?

    last night i watched a documentary about Helltown, or Boston , Ohio.....Early settlers practiced a paganistic religion and tied goats to trees for sacrifices. That was very upsetting to me to see.
     
  3. Tyrsonswood

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    This is probably not as widespread as you are led to believe... by Christians.

    Most Pagans revere nature and as such don't make "animal sacrifices" or much else that harms nature. It could be said that "some" Pagans do but then so do some so called Christians. In general Christians are less likely to revere nature because of the whole "Dominion over the Earth" thing. They can do as much damage as they want... because it says so right there in their book.
     
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  4. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Yeah, morals and ethics are one thing, but without a deeply conservative dogmatic belief system in an omnipotent, ego-ideal-level-of-perfection demanding being that is always passing an absolute judgement on your soul, how will you achieve such soul wrenching levels of shadow repression? In other words, how will your ego determine (justifiably or not) what is so evil about you that it has to repress those qualities so deep into your subconscious shadow that it festers and turns into some mental dynamic, oblivious to you, that makes you a dick to the rest of us, or makes you do things that gives us something to read about in the newspapers, or that makes you a very dangerous individual? What kind of back story would you have, that even you don't know about, that drives you to rise up into power until somehow you are able to force your own twisted sense of morality upon others, all the while hypocritically getting away with things you deny others?

    It is especially powerful if this religious belief system has some form of institutionalized hypocrasy--for example, you could have a God that represents unconditional love, but that still banishes you to suffer in hell for all eternity if you don't follow all the rules (and if someone questions this, you can simply respond that God's love is too deep for us to understand, or that judgement and punishment are a part of his love, or simply dismiss the whole question with a simple, 'because God loves you.').

    Without religion, for example, you would never be able to become a Republican congressman who stands up for good christian family values, and denies the reproductive rights of women, all while you demonstrate a personal history of continuously divorcing wives to marry mistresses. And if a mistress should get pregnant before her time, don't worry, you are a congressman, you'll be able to get that abortion you have been working so hard to deny for everyone else.

    I mean, sure, anybody can exploit someone else--but not everyone can exploit others with the finesse of someone chasing after an unobtainable ego-ideal, driven by copious amounts of shadow projection.

    And yes, there are other ways you can achieve such demented levels of shadow repression--at least enough to make sure that you come out ahead of everyone else in life---you could have very authoritarian parents who offer plenty of criticism and no praise, or you could grow up in a loveless family where everything is defined in terms of monetary value, and no one has any time for you. But those things don't really apply to this thread---those would be under the title of, Why do people who don't grow up in the perfect families know how to treat others?
     
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