Why do atheists spend so much time arguing about the existence of God?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Hoatzin, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    I always love it when you post Okie. You are quite cyber-articulate. Your views are pretty damn close to my own.
     
  2. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Supernatural is something BEYOND the realm of understanding.

    So no, alien technology would not qualify even if humans were never able to comprehend how it worked.

    We may not ever understand all NATURAL law's of the universe, that does not mean they are SUPERNATURAL it mean's we don't know the answer yet and yes, may not ever get to know them.

    There are no ghosts.

    Plus I believe this was supposed to be an atheists thread, I don't see how someone who believes in god or multiple gods would find anything but a kind of sadomasochistic pleasure in by posting here basically asking for someone to attempt to prove there beliefs wrong.


    Just seems odd to me.
     
  3. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Off topic, What does cyber articulate mean?

    I'm genuinely curious. :)
     
  4. pineapple08

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  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It would then, be no different for atheists who post in religious threads, I suppose.
     
  6. espfeelit

    espfeelit Banned

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    my bad eli, i meant, denominated beliefs in general, its a source of establishing moral codes for those that are not cognitively sighted enough to establish their own. besides, arguing whether or not there is a god, is like competing to see who has the biggest dick.
     
  7. famewalk

    famewalk Banned

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    Big dicks aren't so powerful. Unless you're looking forward to subterranean dwelling in the Sahara. I don't understand this. This web page is such a push over.
     
  8. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    It was concted by myslef last night. Articulate generally means they express themselves well, typically orally. Hence cybe-articulate, able to express himself very well in forum mode.
     
  9. espfeelit

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    yah famewalk, dont piss people off if youre smart they dont like it ;) it was a metaphor btw, horrible irony, but i was never good for that. just saying its a he say she bullshit conversation that will never be resolved because people see things at different ends of the spectrum.
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    As a veteran of the recent past when the "Christian" Forum was dominated by atheists savagely bashing Christians, it seems odd to me that anyone would voice that objection. I haven't asked anybody to attempt to prove my beliefs wrong. I was responding to your post, which is the most intelligent I've seen from you.: "Belief in the supernatural and the belief in the POSSIBILITY of the supernatural are two VERY different things. Maybe there are more agnostics here and less so called atheists than many posters realize."
     
  11. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Not really, if that were true only the atheists would actually show off there cocks,

    The theist's would just show old book's with pictures of dicks in them, and state "This is my penis I can show you an old picture but that is all."

    The agnostics would refrain from showing there cocks as well, on the basis that they would rather "wait it out" to make sure there cock was the biggest.








    I can't believe I'm going to post this. lol
     
  12. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    You're right that we work to assumptions. But I don't think you're aware of many of the assumptions that you work to.
     
  13. Al Kapwn

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    I'm an atheist! Who wants to see my cock?

    ...seriously? no one?

    damn.
     
  14. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm very aware that I may be completely wrong on many things, why are you any different?
     
  15. espfeelit

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    you didnt really disagree, yet you challenge it, and i somewhat agree. *) lol
     
  16. pineapple08

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    As an overview it is quite evident that there is a growing number of people that are more than willing and able to critically engage with new ideas and partake in current debates over atheism. As another person mentioned there seems to be a growing demand for the books and ideas that are being put forward by the various new atheists and there opponents of late. This has been most evident in the U.S. where there may be a pool of untapped demand for such literature. The ability to have Debates of this nature in the first place is of course a reflection of and a great achievement of the various pluralist, secular and liberal (traditions,& institutions) that are historically specific to our own societies. Institutions that have not only coexisted with but have helped guaranteed a range of freedoms including religious freedom.

    Marxists and the more fundamentalist agents of the luminous and miraculous are on the other hand far less impressed . Marxists have nothing but contempt for the inherited liberal traditions of the western democracies. Instead a Marxism of sorts took root and drifted eastwards into other societies with long histories of direct cohesion and appropriation. The other so called Como-atheist state that emerged in Cambodia during the seventies was more or less midwifed by the society destroying policies of good old Kissinger and Nixon, the former a winner of a noble peace prize, funny funny. not.
     
  17. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Just to clarify a Marxist and your average atheist are not the same thing.
     
  18. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    That's not actually what I was saying. Ideological assumptions needn't be right or wrong, since we either base an argument on them or we don't. As a case in point, you seem to assume that preservation of life is paramount, even if it has negative consequences to quality of life. That is your assumption; one can take a different position and not be wrong.
     
  19. Hoatzin

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    Well yeah, for a start there's a hell of a lot of atheists dragging down the average.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanx :smilielol5:

    To be fair, the same could be said about theists as well.
     

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