Why do atheists spend so much time arguing about the existence of God?

The content of the maxim does also allow for acts of charity in the absence of any kind of reward for such charity. If people don't choose to interpret it that way I think that says more about the people than the maxim itself.

On what grounds do you suspect this?

That's just stupid and frankly hypocritical, and I suspect you know that. How would the human race's "progress" (whatever that is) be slowed by any one person believing in a god?

Humans could make far greater advances in science if they were less concerned with each other's wellbeing. That is pretty hard to refute. Would you argue that ethics are "bullshit" too?

 

Because the human race does not believe in "A GOD" they believe in thousands of them.

Some of these peoples god's really don't like the other peoples gods.

So they have make believe war's with very REAL causality's to show who's god and way of life is the best.

They tell each other to not use condom's because they will burn in hell if they do, because of this hundred's will die in Africa from aids before the dawn breaks where ever you are tomorrow.

They fly planes into building's and stop scientific research based on their foolish beliefs.

Many religions tell lies to children and tell them they will be forever tortured by monsters if they don't do exactly as they are told.

Religion is a pitiful answer to any question anyone may ever ask.

Religion is the great divider in the world.

It's natural to be afraid of death, that doesen't mean that lies should be propagated and fortunes made at the expense of the fearful.

 

I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. A shit ton of wars and individual-level have occurred without religion at all. I recently heard of an astronomer who lost his nose in a duel over a mathematical equation, for example.

If we get rid of religion and world peace ensues, you can tell me I'm wrong. But everything I know about people suggests to me that if they didn't have religion, they'd invent it, and in the meantime would fight over just about anything. The nature of our perception practically demands that we have to argue out our differences rather than just hope they never arise.

 

If we get rid of religion it gives us one less reason to brutalize torture murder and destroy ourselves.

 

Or one less thing to hold us back from doing those things.

 

How often do you hear of a rational person going onto a religious war?

Don't be afraid to accept the possibility that death just mean's goodbye.

And as it stands now goodbye mean's goodbye forever.

kind of a bummer I know, but hey that's life.

 

so opefully some people will actually think about it too.
that's all I can come up with.
I'd just debate with the more rational.

 

I couldn't say but I have heard of religious people not going to war at all.

I'm not afraid, why, are you ?

Perhaps, perhaps not.

In your opinion.

 

This statement is stupid.


You have heard of religious people NOT going to war?

Well I have seen religious people insight and proliferate war.

I have seen people profit from the gullibility and fear of others.

I have seen religious fundamentalists destroy the lives of thousands (probably millions) of people.

And why?

So people can come to grips that they are not going to live forever?

Grow the fuck up.

Anyone who believes in the "supernatural" is a fool who slows the progress of all mankind.

Amen.

 

Seems like you have alot of anger issues, want to talk about it?

 

None of this behavior is exclusive to the religious community, and the matter-of-fact air you have about your statements kind of places you in the same bracket of religious zealots who speak from stance of claiming authority.

Not to critique your style, but I think you could more effectively spread your "message" if you weren't so overly confrontational. I really don't care in either case, but I find that one outcome results in interesting conversation while the other doesn't.

You attract more flies with honey.

 

Yes, there are both kinds of religious people. When was the last time a Quaker, or Amish person, or Methodist for that matter, started a war?

I don't expect to live forever or go anywhere except six feet under when I die. There are more complex reasons for belief, including (in my case) attraction to the teachings and example of Jesus and belief that God actually might provide a plausible explanation for otherwise puzzling facts.

I think you said that before. I think it's a dubious claim that would be hard to prove.

 

Religion is unnecessary, why would it matter what religion started a war?

Should only some lies be held sacred and others openly mocked?

How should this be judged?

Through terrorism and the acceptance of a way of life that is destructive to civilization?

There is no supernatural force above humans.

Only con men with no hearts.

 

If you don't care and wont take a stance stop quoting me.

 

Sure thing.

It's your world big guy, I'm just passin' on through.

 

You may feel it is unnecessary for you but that doesn’t make it unnecessary for everyone.

Do you realize that of the major wars of the 20th century, done of them were started by religions and none of them for religious reasons? In fact, I know of millions of religious conscientious objectors to those wars can you say the same for atheists?

And who decides what is a lie and what is not, You?

Being rather pragmatic about things, why don’t we just go with what works?

Although there may be some religions that may fall into this category, by no means do they all.

So you say but after thousands of years no one has proven this one way or another.

There have always been con men and doing away with religion will not do away with them, it would merely be throwing out the baby with the bath water.

 

With this statement alone I can see that your world view is quite a bit different than mine.

I would say you were uninformed, but maybe it's just "god's" way of keeping you happy.

One thing, remember that whole Hitler Jew thing?

Your right maybe it's not religion maybe it's the bigotry and ignorance that follows religion wherever it goes that slaughters and insights wars.

 

Perhaps.

Please inform me, what is it I’ve said that makes you feel this is true, some actual facts would be nice.

”Hitler Jew thing”? Yes I remember the “Hitler Jew thing” and it was not the cause of WW II and it was a racial thing not a religious one, perhaps it you that is uninformed.

Ignorance and bigotry is everywhere and once again getting rid of religion will not get rid of it.

 

"None of the major wars of the 20th century had anything to do with religion."

 

Okay, so what your point?