Why are you gay poll

RE: why are you gay?
I'm queer because boys are attractive, but some girls are too.

 

I am bi and I think I was turned bi by my first ever girl crush.

But I don't think I was Bi when I was a fetus, I don't know

 

I'm not, but I do like parades, which probably means I'm a little gay and just repressing something.

 

None of the above? I don't think I was born with a sexual orientation, but I didn't chose it, either. And there wasn't an incident that made me bi. I think it was just something that developed as part of me.

 

Maybe we're not gay because.

Maybe we just happen to be gay.

 

Why are you gay?

I don't know why. God made me gay, you should be asking him.

I have known for as long as I can remember. One of my most vivid memories is of my older brother who was chiding me for watching Chef Tell, a fabulous, flaming, local chef who had a daily T.V. program.
"Why you watching him for? You don't want to watch him, he's queer."
I asked him what queer meant.
He said it was a man who wanted to be with another man like daddy wanted to be with mommy.

I realized two things, one -I am queer; two -people will hate me if they find out.
I was 6 years old. I didn't know a thing about sex.

Nothing in my young life was any different for me than it was for my brothers who are straight. Mine is one of thousands of simular stories.

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There are two reasons in particular that can explain (well.. explain isnt the exact word) but are often involved in why some men will 'become gay'.
This is just generalising so just calm down:

- Given an upbringing in which the Father is either absent or is absent emotionally, distant emotionally. [examples: Alcoholic, very detached/uninterested in Son] and at the same time a Mother who is a strong dominant figure.
Not necessarily 'bullying' either but in which the Mother is the one who controls and dominates the household, especially in emotional and social sense of it.

Now that previous example is not necessarily what sets the stage but when its combined with traumatic experiences.. basically disfunctional and especially if alcoholism and physical abuse (beating) and these sorts of problems exist.

- The Child is then 'Recruited' through the sexual molestation by an older man.
Often a 'Friend' who exploits the childs low self esteen and desire for a Father Figure of any kind.
Often the 'Recruiting' male will follow a pattern something like this:
He will gain the boys trust and begin infering sexuality and lust into the relationship. Not difficult at all if the boy is entering puberty.
Almost always some form of pornography is introduced although not necessarily either.
Eventually the 'Recruiter' will suggest that the boy may be gay?
Then suggest that its 'easy to know' and for example say "Well if you are gay then if a man sucks your penis you will get a boner"
Something along those lines.
Then the boy 'finds out' that he is actually a gay.
He wins approval and 'fatherly love' from being 'a gay' and there you go.

Take those two scenarios and combine them - you have an extremely powerful force of events that will have a young man saying he is 'A homosexual' in no time.

Even better if you have a school system, media bombardment and grown adults who will not only condone the behavior but actually praise and encourage it and its probably a lock-solid done deal, everytime.

 

Hmm... my dad was always there for me. Apart from the typical arguments, dad never beat me, made me feel worthless, or ignored me.

I was never sexually abused, nor was I "recruited" by anyone. I had my own curiosities about sex and sexuality and explored it a bit with someone my own age. Even after the initial sex encounter, I still didn't think myself gay or bi until I got serious crush on another boy and had the opportunity to go on a few dates with him. It was then that I decided that I could have a loving relationship with a man just as meaningful as with a woman. I don't know if it's all genetics or if there is learned traits. All I know is that your theory does not hold water in my book.

 

Its not 'my theory' but its an example of well documented case studies which were on the way to help Doctors treat men with what was then called 'Homosexuality' and was considered a behavioral problem.
That was before they were told to stop treating it as such.

It also happens to be why my best friend from jr.high was seen on the News at the 'Gay Pride' parade flashing his anus at the cameras and declaring it 'sweet stuff'.
Seriously.

As I said - these are some general explanations, so just calm down and everyone can just keep the never-ending "NOt Me' posts for themselves.
If not...
I can give you another explanation of why the young men in this situation cannot ever admit what has actually happened anyways.
As you can imagine, the absolutely devastating realisation of those things is simply far too much to handle.
But 'IF' you say that you are 'gay anyways' then it becomes much less hostile a memory to deal with.
But thats another story.

 

Its very accountable info Erasmus, but any circumastance can be analyzed under some way, shape, or form.

For example, how can someone be born gay on a scientific level?

Well, one scientific theory is called hormone anomaly- A pregnant mother secretes an unusual or wrong amount of hormones to the baby that will alter its perceptions on sexual feelings later in its life when the child reaches puberty as the hormones begin to trigger reactions.

 

I once read up on 'testosterone baths' and how it led to (oldie days word) Viragos or what we just call 'Manly Women' and this sort of thing.
Last I heard - there was no more homosexuality among these women than any other group.
Id like to read more if you have any links.
The study I saw would be about 10 years old now.

 

generalising (sic) is just another word for bigotry.


Your story of Parental Abuse and Recruiting is classic victorian era bunk. You need to pick up some new brochures at your next Klan rally.

You're paranoid. You need help.
Seriously.

Where's the documentation? I'm not worried, you won't ever provide it because it's nonexistent.

Unlikely and it surely never happened. Your "Gay Pride Camera" story suspiciously seems to relate to the fact that I recently mentioned cameras at a Gay Pride parade. If you are going to fabricate such wild stories to illustrate your homophobia, could you be a little more original, please.

 

Read it and weep Hipunkrite... thats how it happened.
Its also how it happens for a lot of guys in gaydom.
There are two reasons why its not talked about:
-I mentioned before the tremendous emotional pain and this is just unbearable to be faced. Its just better to say "well i was born this way anyway' than to even start processing the ramifications of what else it could be.
I mean, seriously if you think about it long enough it would make a person cry out loud for these people.
- The other reason its not talked about is pretty obvious: Its not allowed to be a legitmate conversation anymore.
You do NOT mention that on any televised discussion or publication because that is NOT how its going to be percieved or thought about.
It brings questions about the Official Thinkspeak and thats 'Hatred' and 'Bigotry' right?
So dont you even bother asking if its true or not.. thats beside the point - it will NOT be a valid topic to be known about.
Except here at Hipforums where we can actually talk without censorship for once.

 

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Yeah, but are testosterone baths a natural occurence or a choice women made for themselves? Because in today's world women can shoot themselves with steroids to make themselves receive a manlier appearance.

Hormone anomaly naturally occurs during pregnancy. The child has no choice or involvement in it whatsoever.

Anyway, here's a link I found about hormone anomaly and other scientific scenarios that could lead to homosexuality. It's viewed and written by a homosexual, but his research is from legitimate sources.

http://www.superdrewby.com/column/scienceupdate.shtml

 

LogsOnSticks, thanks for finding the link. It is an articulate and accurate paper.

 

interesting info.

 

I have to say, Erasmus, that what you posted earlier is just not a generalization, but it is generally wrong.

What you posted is a perfect re-hash of a century old Freudian theory on homosexuality. It has since been discredited, as has much of psychoanalytical theory.

As you will notice, I have cited two rather mainstream sources of information, one being the nation's premier association of psychiatrists, and the other being an online encyclopedia with an accuracy rating that is the same as the Encyclopedia Britannica.

I've provided you with just a summary of the scientific consensus. I could easily find many more highly credible links which say the same things. I don't have to resort to a discredited 19th century theory, fringe publications, or purely anecdotal evidence.

You speak quite often of how your "best friend" was gay, and how "most of my friends growing up were gay". Not only does this add nothing to your argument, but I think you are making it up, since it is a statistical improbability that most of your friends were gay. Furthermore I doubt you would hold such typical anti-gay views if you actually had so many gay friends.

What I'm saying is that you're full of rubbish.

 

I've got a few other gay people in my family, but that isn't the reason. Men rock. Period.

 

I got turned on by the football team thats pretty much it