Why are we told by the society that sex is bad? Why does society set up such a rule?

Class.

 

Because there is no reason for a pre-pubescent child to be introduced to sex when they aren't even prepared to deal with their own sexuality.

 

Sex and nudity are not the same thing. :toetap05:

 

I agree. :cheers2:

And, as a long-time nudist, the ppl we constantly fight for our rights to a clothing-free lifestyle even on places set apart for that are the same sex-negative ppl who wish to equate simple nudity with sex.

 

I agree.
But in a society where clothing has been mainstream (and required) for thousands of years, and in a society where people only completely shed their clothes either to bath or to have sex, they are almost synonymous anymore.

 

I've never been told by "society" that sex is bad. My issue was that I was raised Catholic and that whole conservative philosophy was that if it feels good it must be a sin. As a result, it was tough to break out and realize sex as a healthy adult practice. The first time I had an orgasm (http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=6243751#post6243751 ), I was sure I'd done something terribly wrong. Eventually I came to the realization that sex is a healthy and necessary part of a relationship - even enjoyable alone! That's why people like me are called "recovering Catholics."

 

Nope, this isn't true. Everyone knew about it-- it was called 'prostitution', and it was extremely well-known AND popular... more popular than it is nowadays, even.

Actually, one of the biggest reasons for the 'stigma' against sex was the economic threat that prostitution posed-- the upper classes needed children for their mines and chimneys but they couldn't offer the same great working conditions that the world's oldest profession could (ie, prostitutes had much longer lives than miners)... so they started spreading all this 'women should be innocent and virtuous' crap around. Which was fine if you could afford it-- 'morality' and 'dignity' were and still are, for most of the world, luxuries.

 

Well, that's one hypothesis. Actually sounds too conspiratorial for me, and old fashioned religious morality hypocrisy has a longer documented track record.

 

Actually, he's waaaaay closer than you are. What liberals don't understand is that 'attitudes' follow economic necessity, not the other way around.

There's a reason why the proletariat are not nudity-crazed, as in the social circles you traffic in. And it's not because they are more backward than you, either. Quite the contrary.

They have to make a living.

 

When you say, "start spreading" you sound conspiratorial. And, you launch the underlying assumption that working class people are gullible and less intelligent than the bourgeoisie.

What actually happens is that the bourgeoisie has to believe what it believes in order for a class society to exist. And, you're right, how can class exist if sex propitiates the means for bourgeoisie-proletariat intercourse?

A taboo is just the post facto rationalization about the fact that a daughter of the bourgeoisie being fucked by a miner is economically risky. You're also right about the fact that prostitution can threaten the class structure, hence its partial illegality.

 

Well, this is the Internet. You are free to believe and say whatever you want without any attribution or proof.

But most of the moral attitude of Christendom can be traced back to misinterpretation of the Bible, both old and new testaments, particularly the proselytizing of St. Paul while he was trying to establish his new church in Greece and separate his flock from the traditional sex-positive Greeks.

 

You're oversimplifying Greek history. What I think you call sex-negative rationalizations actually existed there, also. And gaining in popularity: Plato, Socrates, etc.

And that's when Greek class structure was rushing headlong onto its most advanced stages.

 

sex isn't banned from society in any sense of the word, it is put too highly on a pedistal! In the fifties everyone wanted washers, nowadays sex is the new washer. :hat:

 

You're so clueless about prostitution I could pity.

 

If my life-project was to get stuck with an out-of-shape, financially and emotionally dependent wife and slave away at a job I don't like to support three kids, what you say would be correct.

 

To control the breeders?