Why are there so many partisan bootlickers in these forums?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Scarecrow13, Aug 19, 2023.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I'm not real familiar with the Syrian conflict, so maybe you can enlighten me on certain points. It seems the present Syrian government is supported by Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah while the rebels are supported by the United States, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Britain, France, Israel, and the Netherlands. aAll allies of the U.S.
    It seems the Syrian government is accused of war crimes and the U.S first entered the conflict to counter ISIL (ISIS). Currently the U.S claims to be involved to "to reduce violence, maintain military pressure on ISIL, address Syria’s humanitarian crisis, and to support Israel." ~ aljazeera
    Which of those aims don't you agree with?

    I do believe we have fought "just wars" for other countries. WWI and WWII come to mind instantly.

    Yes, the elements of the Patriot act are still in existence. Which ones do you disagree with?


    Chelsea Manning did not just release records of U.S atrocities she also released thousands of other documents such as 250,000 diplomatic cables that have compromised the U.S. and her allies. For these actions she could have received a death sentence.
    If she would have stopped a her interpretation of war crimes, I could agree with you.

    Snowedn released documents about U.S. domestic spying. Nothing much has changed after that release. The U.S. spys, all countries spy. The U.S spys on it's own citizens, we all knew that. If he had stayed in the U.S and fought to change those acts, okay. Instead he fled to Russia and became a Russian citizen. I presume becasue he believes Russia doesn't spy on it's citizens.

    Assange wrote the Sycophant program that allowed our enemies to hack into NASA, the Department of Defence, the Stanford Research Institute, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Los Alamos National Laboratory and Australian systems like the Australian Federal Police and Australia National University. 'Nough said about Assange.
     
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  2. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    "we shouldn't be fighting wars for other countries. It has ended badly every time." Tell that to Europe that was attacked by Germany. Tell that to ALL the nations that were stolen / occupied by The Soviet Union after WW2. There's a reason to help Ukraine, as distasteful it may seem to waste national treasure on another war. Russia is a bad actor and if the republicans get total presidential / legislative power and cut off support for Ukraine---they will begin to re take the countries that successfully broke away from them over the years. Yeah--it's the shits to be involved in another war after Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan ,etc. However as I mentioned in a former post---it's ALL as human as can be. :cool: The quest for power and privilege is as age old as batting each other over the head with clubs.:(
     
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  3. Tishomingo

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    Hate to break it to you, but the Cold War already seems to be heating up again, and Russian expansionism seems to be at fault. You mention the "Russian-Syria" war. Why is Russia in Syria? Why is Iran there too? Russia began supporting the Assad regime in Syria in 2011 with military aid, and its direct military involvement in 2015 marked its first military venture outside the borders of Russia since the end of the Cold War in 1991. Russia's moves were a response to the "Arab Spring" of 2011, which spawned the Syrian revolt against Assad and the overthrow of Qaddafi in Libya. Assad's hostility toward Israel, his brutally repressive response to protests, and stepped up Hezbollah activity against Israel by Syria's Iranian allies resulted in U.S. support for some of the rebels. Russia was alarmed at the demise of its Libyan ally, Qaddafi, and was anxious to protect its only naval base in the Mediterranean at Tartus. The accelerated military activity in 2014 was a response to the emergence of the Islamic State (ISIS), a militant Salafi jihadi entity, in that year. When Russia began striking civilian targets, it lost its seat on the UN Human Rights Conference.

    The U.S. started giving supplies and training to Syrian rebels in 2011, and intervened militarily in 2014 to combat ISIS, The Islamic state based in U.S.-occupied Iraq, had expanded into Syria. ISIS was a common enemy to both the U.S. and Russia/Iran, and depriving it of its territory in Syria and Iraq was one of the important achievements for all powers in the conflict. Iran became actively involved in supporting the Assad regime in 2011, sending in tens of thousands of Iranian Shiite militants, along with advisors, to prop up Assad. Iran views Syria as a gateway for support of its terrorist arm Hezbollah in Lebanon and a religious battleground between Iranian Shiite Muslims and the Sunni majority in Syria. (Assad comes from the Shia Alawite minority, which Iran views as a buffer against the Sunnis.) Syria is geopolitically important because of its location in the oil-rich Middle East, its proximity to Israel, and its centrality in the regional power struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Given these stakes, a U.S. pullout would likely have major consequences in a sensitive region that could come back to haunt us.
     
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