Why Are So Many People So Less Giving With Sex?

I'm just concerned that gingeroot currently knows of other children who are being...made love to...by adults.

 

The thing is that I was actually pointing out that every religion has it's abusers just as they also have their strong and good points. I just have the title Reverand because I went to the right website. I wasn't throwing rocks at all of these other religions blaming them and saying "It's not mine so I'm going to criticize it". What I've been pointing out is there is some of what I call "Red Flag Language". Different forms of psychological abuse / manipulation Like "Don't tell anyone or we will get in trouble" or "The rest of the world doesn't understand the cultural significance of what we do". Most people who practice Earth Based Religion don't abuse kids, most Tantric Practitioners don't abuse followers. But there have been public cases lately about the few who do. I've used the examples of the Satanists that I've talked to and the Wiccans that I've known not to say "They all do this and it's fucked" but because mostly they condemn such behavior. One of my clients has a friend who knew Anton LeVay personally and I've played music with people who know his daughter that if you described the behavior that the OP seems to be describing they would be appalled.

We seem to be living in times of persecution of the different. I understand that. Personally I consider myself Buddhist. I subscribe to the "Do no harm" model of life. I don't judge other religions harshly because they are not my own. I judge them harshly because most of them have missed their original point.

C/S,
Rev J

 

The key to your whole post is the word "MOST" and how MOST try to hide cover up what's going on inside their religion.

Deeply devote is "usually" deeply devious.

 

That was my point, you are the opposite of him

Its kind of been in front of your face the whole time

I know how you think, Only men do this, men do it a lot more ....because you've never seen or heard anything to the contrary

No one believes that, no one is going to react with the same anger for a Mary Kay Letourneau as a Jimmy Saville

A quick check on the net, they are still married, with two teen daughters





Even though its a little more ickier than the male version, well more ickier than sinister, guys are sinister.

Had more to do with the fact that she had four children in quick succession with the first husband who were around the same age as her now husband when they started.......than she, he and everyone else would ever want to admit

 

Just so we're all clear here I just want to know what you all define as abuse?

 

Not being raised in a normal (monogamous heterosexual) family with a normal (female) mother and normal (male) father, where both parents (appear to) love each other and their children.

 

Creepy is creepy. The phrase "Mature for their age " raises my cockles too.

C/S,
Rev J

 

I'm hoping that wasn't aimed at me.

I'm looking at gingerroots posts as a whole. Having sex irregardless of personal attraction because it is supposed to help someone shows a disregard for someone's self respect. This isn't Florence Nightingale. There are numerous linguistic red flags in his posts. At 17 talking about having sex with a "Cougar" to "Help her out" a few years earlier should be a red flag.

Now as far as sexual abuse goes there are some obvious boundaries that shouldn't be crossed. If you can't figure them out then there are problems.

C/S,
Rev J

 

I'm not saying I couldn't. You seem to be accusing me of something and I don't like it. I've never harmed a soul sexually, well unless they were into that kinda thing. You keep talking about "red flags" as if having a normal sex drive is something to be ashamed of, which I am not.

 

Nobody is accusing you of harming anyone, you are clearly a victim of Child Abuse. It's clear to any slightly normal person who reads your posts.

 

Again that chasm between what people say they believe and what they actually believe

Do you think the majority of guys, when they here that he's already had sex with however many woman are going to give a shit about his welfare.....or are they going to get pissy that he's getting it and they aint. Some dude thats 21 and still a virgin, and not by choice, is going to empathize with this 17 yr old, be like "oh you poor thing, that must have scarred you for life" No.

Do you think any woman are going to think it harmed him? Or just pretend so around the boyfriend / husband....almost every other male

Whats more likely to happen because of his experience he is a lot better at reading them, and earlier than other guys, this will just compound over the next few decades. A lot more relaxed/ not as excited / nervous around them as he should be for his age. The girls will be able to sniff that out instantly, equates to him being able to last longer in the bedroom, which will just compound things again.....until 20 years later, you've got well.......


As I said, its been right in front of your face the whole time who these guys are

 

Nope, most normal guys don't consider scoring women their mom's age as 'success' in any way shape or form, they'll just laugh at him.
Nope, women don't much think about men's feelings, it's all about them and what they want.
Nope, he'll come across as another total creep/loser.

Most women have an agenda, and that agenda is invariably the acquisition of a productive male's earnings/assets.
OK, so he might get the occasional shag from an old boiler, but apart from that, he's worthless ....... damaged goods.

 

HEY! Screw you.

And just so you know I have been with plenty of girls closer to my own age. It's just that they are way way more fickle. The one girl I could actually say was different. I had a sort of real connection with, and not just sex which we were in tune with. We did a bonding tent and were inseparable...for I think 9 weeks. Then she wanted more variety. I jus deal with the older women better because at least they tend to be more I guess sincere is the right word.

 

C'mon, how do you think he was going to react to that?

 

OldDude pretty much answered this one for me.

This is optimistic for you.

More likely scenario:

He gets into a series of relationships with mentally/psychologically abusive, manipulative women who continue to do the same type of head job that has already been done and making him feel bad about standing up for himself and his boundaries. Having had this introduced to him as "Normal" he will continue to repeat those behaviors and seeking out those women until hopefully he realizes that he's a fucking head case himself and starts to look at his past and figures out how he got to the point where he is that fucked up and starts looking into how to untie the knots generally speaking the sooner the better.

Even that scenario is a little optimistic. He may never figure it out and keep getting into the same relationship over and over and never tries to figure out why and simply accepts it as "Normal".

C/S,
Rev J

 

True Dat.......



Cheers Glen.

 

Ugh, you and Oldude are getting rather nasty now.

I think we are getting in grumpy he's gettinga lot of va Jay Jay territory now, what it's starting to sound like.

As I said, "they" have been right in front of your face the whole time

 

On the OP, Why are so many people so less giving with sex?

Because one certain group expects way too much, for little return. Some have out-priced themselves.
Look at it this way...I can go buy a high dollar hooker twice a month with the money I could spend on them for a lot of griping/hassle, and a dead bed too.

Or I could develop good clientele business agreement with pros, give them the money and live a hassle-free, stress-free life.
I've already had a stroke from one chick's games, not happening again if I can help it. FUCK that shit!!!

 

It depends what you mean by high dollar?
My former wife cost me $1,000,000 severance plus 30 years of running expenses.
If we forget the expenses and average out the sex at once a week that's 1,000,000 divided by 52 x 30 = $650/shag (and she was never better than 6/10 age 19, dropping to a 3/10 at age 50).
Now I rarely pay more than $50 (for a 20 year old 10/10 with a STD certificate less than a week old and 3hrs in a air-con hotel room)

Flying out to SEA once a month for a one week holiday would have saved me $$$$$$$$$$s

 

If you're in SE Asia that's not surprising, been looking @ that real hard. Maybe in a year or two I'll be in Pattaya for a while
Sorry you got hosed that bad man...