Why are people such cowards?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by TheChaosFactor, Jan 10, 2005.

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  1. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Dude! Further proof of what a poser you are! A butterfly knife?! How much should we bet that it says "Pakistan" on it?! LOL!! I suppose the fact that it's a butterfly knife makes you that much tougher -- you know, 'cause you get to jiggle it around before you strike your "I'm tough" pose?

    I guess you don't know that there are dozens of tactical fighting knives of REAL quality that you don't have to fuck around with in order to get the business end sticking out of.

    Dude, the garbage is that you condemn them for being "so worried about pride" but YOU are the one "so worried about pride" that you're utterly preoccupied with it, and with fighting to "earn" it.

    You are being the ultimate hypocrite here, from calling the guys in the car pussies and cowards when YOU and yours backed down from the fight (despite how big your brother is), to calling the kind of guy who would shoot/stab/sucker punch someone "worried about pride."


    This gets funnier the more I read! :p

    -Jeffrey
     
  2. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    Don't bring me into it. I'm fine with black and white being identified.

    So to answer your question: SHE would think it was fine
     
  3. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    THANK you.

    And like me, I assume you don't socialize where these kinds of gutter trash congregate.

    It's sad, watching these people commiserate about how the "good old days" are gone, when people used to "fight honestly" instead of bringing knives or guns.

    Really! Life was so wonderful when everyone was fighting but left guns and knives out of it. Ahh, me lad, what a paradise 'twas... :rolleyes:

    Just shows you where these people's heads are...

    -Jeffrey
     
  4. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Then you're being inconsistent.

    Or you're giving him a by on something that you'd rip into anyone else for doing, because you're sweet on him for being such a badass butterfly-knife-fighter.

    Honestly, I don't believe you for a second that you're "fine" with people needlessly mentioning that the antagonist in a story was black.

    If they had been white, would he have said, "These white guys wanted to jump me"?

    -Jeffrey
     
  5. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    You're talking about defective minds.
    That's all you really need to know.

    -Jeffrey
     
  6. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    And you, as usual, are just looking for a fight. I have never said anything to anyone for stating someone's race. I generally know when I'm offended but thank you for trying to tell me when I am.


    Inconsistent, huh? Prove it.
    If you think I am offended by this, then there must a post where I was offended by something similar, right? Please quote it or link it. Otherwise, please do not accuse me of lying

    Has anyone ever told you not to judge a book by its cover? It seems to me that you do that alot. Not to mention your numerous assumptions. You have no idea why I do anything I do......including liking Chaos.

    I have a serious question so I would deeply appreciate an honest answer. Do you consider yourself wise? I ask because most wise people understand that their life is not the only way to live, that life is in stages. And that even though we may get some lessons around the same age, lessons are actually learned as an individual and that puts us all on our own timeline. I wonder what went wrong with you. I wonder why at 33, you have not learned the value of humility. Most of all, I wonder if you just like a good online arguement because that's all you seem to do.

    eh.....but what do I know? I've never met you
     
  7. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    I am aware that I expose certain flaws on here. I am not perfect, nor do I claim to be; nor do I even mean to imply it by chastising others. Some of the criticism leveled at me is accurate and deserved.

    Do I consider myself wise. In some respects, yes. In some respects, no.
    I do know that I have never stopped learning, and will never stop learning. I also do know that ongoing learning can only mean that at any given moment, I don't know everything. After all, how can you continue to learn things if you know everything? Not possible.

    BTW, I was basing my assumptions on the way you posted all the angry shit about who's "allowed" to say "nigga". I thought it was fair to assume that you would see racist overtones in specifying that a perp was black if it was not germain to the story. And you DID call ME racist a few times, didn't you? Lacking evidence that I prejudge or, more specifically, discriminate based on race, when I don't.

    To be fair to me, yes, more than in the past I do recognize that there are more ways to live than my way. It's possibly more of a struggle for me to accept that than it is for others to. Who knows why that is. Environment? Upbringing? Dunno. I do know that I am better at it than I used to be, but still not fully accepting. And there are certain lifestyles that I can recognize, and understand, that I will NEVER ACCEPT as "equal" or legitimate. This bullshit fighting/drug selling life of Chaos... nope, I don't respect it, and probably never will.

    I wonder if you are as struck by the irony of this as I am:
    You mention that I am not wise enough to accept other ways of living, but then say that something went wrong with me to make me the way I am... indicating that you condemn the way that I live my life... How oddly hypocritical.

    Yes, I do like a good online argument, mostly because it is exercise for the thinking skills. It's not because I enjoy fighting with people, actually, although I understand it could seem that way.

    You have moments when you seem quite intelligent and articulate, and then others when you seem to me like you're not so smart. I don't know what to make of you.


    -Jeffrey
     
  8. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    I was speaking of others. Why do you not allow them time to learn? If you are constantly learning, aren't we all? And if that is true, aren't you just upset with people for not being at your level of lessons learned? Doesn't that seem wrong to you? Its like a kid in 5th grade being mad at another little kid for being in the 2nd grade.

    I was not angry. The post was for someone that liked me but still used the word. I wanted to voice my opinion

    I do think you are racist but not for using the word black. Truthfully, I don't think you know you are racist. This is my opinion. It will not change. I don't care if you marry a black woman, I see you as racist

    And that is your right but why do you have to attack people? Why be so spiteful if you disagree? If you see a man that you don't like, you don't have to hug him but you don't have to kick him in the nuts either.

    I'm sure he will lose weeks of sleep about that one. So why do you continue to beraid him? What are you getting from it? If not an inflated ego from putting someone else down. You claim to be so civilized but if that were really true, you wouldn't treat people that way you do. You called me slut several times before I ever said anything derogatory to you. Why? Why would a truly civilized person call another adult names without knowing them or being mistreated first. Think about it? And don't be defensive.

    Ask yourself, even if you don't give me an answer. Why are you so mean to people when its not necessary?
     
  9. peacefuljeffrey

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    You've given me some things to think about. Who knows, you may end up having been part of my learning in life.

    The times I called you a slut were probably because I had a strong feeling of disagreement with the lifestyle/choices you had made. I don't think it comes down to inflating my ego to "berate" people here; it's more about venting the things that frustrate me in the world I observe. I guess that the way I'm constructed, I have to release pent-up frustration. Forums online are a great place to do it, actually. No real harm gets done, no one takes it all that seriously, it's relatively anonymous, and repercussions are few if any. Without being face to face, most of us are more willing to say what we really feel whereas we'd be too self-conscious or embarrassed to do it in real life. That's not to say I don't speak my mind in real life, but let's be practical: one is not going to walk up to a smoker in real life and just start talking shit to their face, lacing into them with, "What possible excuse could you have had, you moron, for taking up that habit knowing that it's harmful, people hate it, and it's incredibly hard to quit and better people than you have tried?! And are you really that shallow and pathetic as to smoke for 'image'?! Something must be wrong with your mind if you could make the decision to smoke in the first place!"

    But online, you can say that shit.

    Yeehaaaa!

    -Jeffrey
     
  10. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    I was reffering to your need to belittle people, something that is demonstrated daily on this forum. I have no idea how you live your life

    Still. Why all the name-calling?

    That is called being a 3-dimensional person. I live and breathe. I am not a character in a book or movie. You are not supposed to know "what to make of me" because you do not know me. No offense, but if I fit into some prepackaged notion then I wouldn't be me. This, I believe, is part of the problem. You put people into boxes. Why do I have to be one or the other? People are complex. That's what being human is. At least I think so.
     
  11. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    I enjoy fish dinners
     
  12. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    Question: Why, in your eyes, am I not allowed to make my own life mistakes?
     
  13. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    I don't think I ever made any statement that people, you included, are not free to make their own mistakes.

    Often the error people make is in thinking that others are not free to condemn the choices that led to those mistakes. I am just as entitled to dislike the choices you made/make as you are to make them. Neither of us has the right to deny that to the other.

    -Jeffrey
     
  14. peacefuljeffrey

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    Question: Why, in your eyes, are people's mistakes sacrosanct and unassailable?

    -Jeffrey
     
  15. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    I could ask the same of you.
     
  16. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Rummy, who the hell are you talking to?

    -Jeffrey
     
  17. crummyrummy

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    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    Wait, I don't get it. Are you saying you could ask why I am sacrosanct and unassailable?

    That doesn't make sense. I haven't made any claim that I am not to be questioned. In fact, I admitted plenty of fallibility in response to missfontella's initial few posts.

    -Jeffrey
     
  19. crummyrummy

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    admitting fallability does not mean you are not riding a high horse of false rightiousness.
     
  20. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    Of course, that is your right to say something. My point is that you act as if your opinion of someone's life matters more than the person living the life. And that you are unnecessarily hurtful and mean when expressing said opinion.
     
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