yeh, actually we can be quite simple. but ya gotta understand that sometimes men hafta be somewhat cautious around women.
hahaha. all men should watch seagal movies. still, so far as i can tell, most of the men i've ever known well wanted nothing more than to be treated well, not nagged, appreciated for their efforts and allowed to blow a fuse from time to time without having to deal with someone crying.
Ummm...this could be dangerous. Just appreciated is more the way I feel. Yet, I'm not saying that I don't like having things to offer.
probably thinking about this from two different angles. I see what your saying and from that standpoint I would want more. I think it's about basic respect for one another. Hard to visualize when you are single, Im sure.
I'm sure. But I think I can at least see the outlines of a complete sense of mutuality. I've been close. And I have a male friend for whom I feel that way. What I was trying to say is that a part of it is appreciating what someone does for you (and that is important). Another part of it is appreciating that person on their own merits. Without condition or judgment. And appreciating the totality of that person, rather than just the good bits. Women have often made me feel like they appreciate me on the condition that I do something for them, or that I play a pre-conceived role in their lives. And that doesn't cut it for me.
There are obviously conditions. KC wouldnt have stayed with me if I wasnt of some value to her. I must remain of some value, as well. She may love me forever but she may have to do it from afar if I dont maintain who I am and do the things I do to maintain a house and family. At some point in a relationship love becomes an action word every bit as much as a feeling. just my $.02
Damn... that's the smartest thing I've ever heard a woman say about men. Now to all the ladies... after reading that, is it really that confusing or complicated?
I can understand that. As long as it's reciprocated, which I'm sure it is in the case of you guys. Cheers. Edit: Also, as long as it isn't coerced.
Man, I couldnt agree with you more. I dont want guilt or pity respect and appreciation and reciprocity is fundamental.