This is funny... and I don't have time to read the entire thing. My boyfriend did blacksmithing, as suggested by someone. But I bet you $500 he would wear a pink shirt if I told him he looked hot in it. (at least in the bedroom he would). However there is no way in hell I'd be with my boyfriend if he didn't argue with me. That is the glue to our relationship. There is no way I could be with a man who would let me walk all over him. I test my limits every day, and I know how far I can go, and when I need to back off, and so does he.
I think men trying to be manly is pathetic. I'm not super manly, if you payed extremely close attention you might call me feminine, but I am who I am. Seriously... let people express themselves. Men can cry, men can wear pink shirts, and men can have a "bro's before ho's" attitude and it doesn't make them any less of a man. I've always had this view.
Some men see behind the pathetic male gender roles of the past and think its time to change, if the backward older generation cannot accept the new man, then thats ok, you will die sooner or later. Consequences men will pay in the future for this is probably freedom from stupidity. Yes , I know you would not like that.
Nothin' but repect my friend. But one of my main concerns is what happens to a relationship when a man just gives in to the woman every time. Now let's be realistic, if you are married, as a man you're gonna have to give in most of the time. But if you don't put your foot down ever then we have just chaged rolls. How is that progress? Used to be the man made the decisions and the woman said yes dear. Now the women make the decisions and we say yes dear. Neither way is the right way, for me anyway. If you are married then I have to assume that your wife is just cooler than most. As for the majority it seems that they will continue to take as long as we continue to give in. That's not equality.
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back here, I was picking up sime tampons for my wife at the store (j/k/). Good point some definition would be helpful. Now I do not have any complaint (or right to for that matter), about homosexuals acting feminine. By all means, people should act however they want to. As far as hetrosexuals acting feminine, well that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I guess I mean a mixture of scared (to stand up for themselves to their wives and girlfriends), and weak. An example would also be helpful. How about a fiancee' not letting her husband to be have a bachelor party. Or maybe a guy not being allowed to go out with the guys. Or maybe one of my other friends, this one is my favorite: So my friend could not get permission to go to our mutual friends bachelor party. He asked if he could bring her!Apparently, she has decided that they come as a couple or they don't come at all....LMFAO!
Well said, all very good points. The soccer moms have just recently made playing tag against the rules...but that's a different thread so I won't hijack myself.
Being a man's man has nothing to do with drinkning beer, and beating your wife...well at least not beating your wife. And trust me when I tell you that I can't yell at my wife and expect anything good to come from it. Next, I don't know anyone who ever worked construction and made sht money. I like wine (except for the heartburn), and I like jazz too. I'm nbot a big peotry fan but I don't have anything against it per say. I actually don't find it hard work to be a modern day man's man. It's just who I am. I like to hang out w/ my friends, go on the occasional guys camping trip, and watch sports. I wouldn't call any of it hard work. I do what I like. That happens to make me a man's man. But I don't do it because I am trying to be something, I do it because it is natural and fun. To each their own, I respect your opinion.
I have to agree. Beating women, or even yalling at them and telling them what to do is not what I am about, nor what I meant when I created this thread. I also am not asking why don't young men try to live up to a certain stereotype. It's more like why don't they just naturally act like a man's man.
That was a saying we had when we were like 15. That would be about 20 years ago. I have not used that phrase since I grew up. I even said that it was not my point. I then clearly stated what my point was. None the less I respect your opinion and appreciate any and all input. I have no set idea as to what the correct answers are to my original point, actually was hoping yall might tell me.
I have agree, very well said, Short and to the point. These are some of the manly qualities I was referring to when I started the thread.
There is nothing wrong w/ being gay, period. I am not threatened by hetrosexual EMO fans, but I am embarrassed as a man.
Thanks for the input. I have to agree that part of being a man is not letting people walk all over you. And thanks especially for the last comment. Someone else made a mention of that and I have to agree. It's something I hadn't considered and is axactly what I was looking for out of this thread.
So you didn't grow up watching your mother and father interact. That has some bearing on this opinion I would say. But more to the point I just disagree w/ you. Of course I've been wrong plenty of times before and will be wrong plenty more times, so thanks for the input.
I really liked your post. We define a wuss in the same way. I don't want guys to try act act like a man's man. Rather I wish they would just be that way naturally. So I guess I should have clarified that it's not that I want young men to try and live up to a stereotype. I just want them to stop being our definition of a wus.
Good points. I guess men just need to stand up for themselves more. Helps to keep the give and take of a relationship going both ways. Men should not be in charge. Neither should women.