Why are girls so fucked (extremely long)

How about everyone of every gender just stop touching other people.

 

Now I don't agree with that!
People just need to stop being assholes by taking out their frustration on people who are weaker than them.

 

Absolute bullshit stinkfoot...

Domestic violence is caused by people who ACT WITH VIOLENCE...

What you just said about self control is that it may be the fault of the abused that their spouse hit them...

There is ZERO excuse for bringing violence into a relationship.

 

At the same time though Tom, psychological violence is usually a precursor to physical violence so can you say either are acceptable?

 

I can say with 100% sureity that the ACT of violence is worse then words of violence. One can be ignored and walked away from, the other causes physical damage.

One is words, one is fists.

One is vibrations of air, one is impact of flesh and bone.

HUGE difference...


But thats alright, continue to argue that there is an excuse for physical violence...

 

I wasn't offering it as an excuse. My early childhood was spent in an abusive, alcoholic situation and adulthood- including coming to grips with my own shortcomings has cast some light on the abuse that went on - so this "bullshit" that you've declared as absolute was based on my own experience. Are you suggesting that I throw out my own experiences as invalid?

People who act with violence choose not to exercise self control. Period.

 

Shall we argue that rape is also the fault of the victims as well? After all, the mental effect of a woman wearing revealing clothes can be quite hard on some people. Maybe we should excuse them too?

 

Not once did I say there was an excuse for physical violence, in fact I said the complete opposite.

 

I am saying (multiple times now) that there is zero excuse for physical violence in a relationship.

 

Let's make this about personal experiences shall we?

AS a child growing up, before the age of 5 I was beaten black blue and bloody by my father.

According to him at the time, it was my fault because I didn't behave... let me repeat part of this... BEFORE I WAS FIVE FUCKING YEARS OLD...


SO do I react vehemently when people start suggesting that it is the abused that MAY have caused abuse... OF course I do...

Is there anything anyone can say to change my opnion that physical violence has no place in what should be a LOVING relationship?

ZERO...

to the point that I would rather risk being banned for life from this or any other site (or even the internet as a whole) if it meant staying quiet and not pointing out how much of a cowardly little bitch someone must be in order to either use physical violence on a loved one, or to excuse it based on anything.

 

I wasn't saying there is any excuse... I'm just trying to shed some light on the fact that there's usually something behind the violence.

No one gets a pass for being abusive in my book... just because someone has had a particular upbringing doesn't give them a right to hit, grab, or be verbally abusive.

Akin to here... just because someone is trying to illuminate why someone acts as they do doesn't mean they are disagreeing with you that there is no excuse for abuse- and creating arguments and name calling to invalidate another person's point of view adds nothing to the discussion.

In fact, it's a form of verbal abuse

 

You're using your own experiences to justify launching personal attacks... I can see how you might understand the abuser's mind set... you seem to be emulating their special way of making excuses for their behavior in order to justify your own.

 

If people would as a whole start finding physical violence unacceptable to the point where they rejected it and those who use it,then this wouldn't be an issue.

But seems people (some very well meaning) try to point out another cause other then the person choosing to become physically violent, it continues on in a cycle.

There is no precurser to physical violence... it is a choice. Those who choose it are 100% responsible for their choice.

NOTHING, leads up to it, except for cowardice.

 

You know, what, fuck all this shit...

CC go ahead and beat the fuckign woman... after all she encouraged it with her behavior... parents.. go ahead, beat your kids, they are little bastards after all... fuck it, let's all look for any excuse we can find to move from words, to physcial violence...

I am so fucking done with this bullshit...

 

This I agree with 100%

While I agree that cowardice is a factor, ignoring what shapes a person will just make the issue more difficult to effectively combat- at least in my opinion. I appreciate that you have a differing opinion an this. They are factors but it is the individual decision not to grow past the constraints.

 

You're giving up apparently because people aren't acquiescing to your stance that you see as irrefutable or is it because we're disallowing personal attacks as a means of rebuttal?

You've illustrated with great eloquence an all too common human frailty of a short temper which is also something of a factor in domestic violence... but NOT an excuse.

 

:coffee:

You need to stop getting little girls drunk and then holding them to high standards. She's 15 and shouldn't be drinking, how can you expect her to control her emotions around your friends or whatever? Sounds like you're embarassed that she could be her own person or something... weird.

 

Haha, I just wanted to say I enjoy your posts stinkfoot.

 

this story was indeed extremely long and turned out to be pretty stupid. however, i did read through the entire thing which i normally wouldnt do cause I like the way you write.


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I think the problem is a lot of people need a simple lesson in 4th grade again

Keep your hands to yourself and use your indoor voices