Why are billionaires good or are they not?

Just look up his name and stop being so intellectually lazy.

And it was your greed that moved you to get the education and training for a better paying career than the bare minimum.

 

Ummmm.... No.



greed noun

\ ˈgrēd \
Definition of greed
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed

 

I'm happier with the bare minimum. Maybe I'm just a minimalist. I feel I have a larger degree of freedom this way. If I were looking for all kinds of costly fun, it might be a different story. But I've always been able to keep myself occupied with just my thoughts. It's kind of nice just being a nobody.

 

i'm not ok with a life style that lacks imagination, but accumulation has nothing to do with it.
(accumulation can be just as lacking in imagination and gratification, and for that matter, logic)
(pretending the same thing about what is not known as someone else, is not what i mean by logic or imagination though. goals are ok, but they're not the only alternative, again, it is creating and exploring, and yes even also being generous with them, that are the real thing.)

 

sooo; how is trying to impress anyone by what you can accumulate, any different then just getting by, if you don't actually create or explore anything?
personally i would not be ok with a life style of having to impress anyone in order to have anything that gives me pleasure to use and create with.

(i am for the partial minimalism of not wasting any more then can be avoided on things i can't creatively use)

(and i would love and very much prefer to live in a culture where more people thought that way about it)

 

People who barely earn a living are scared by socialism. Hey, hands off the money I don't have yet !

Right wingers keep coming up with that bullshit about the beautiful and unique snowflakes that think to be entitled to money and fortune and to become rockstars and blah blah blah. BTW, I want to repeat myself once again, it was the line of a movie character who was utterly and completely off his trolley, just to put things in perspective. But this stolid conservative , billionare-infatuated attitude is exactly that, believing that somehow everyone of us can become rich and then... don't dare to even think taxing my potential, theoretical riches ! This looks like snowflake attitude too.
A few succeed. Usually it takes having a very good idea, working hard and being ludicrously lucky, and having no morals worth talking about is a huge boost. Or you just inherit the money from your dad.

Oh about the snowflake thing, I believe that halfway... we are indeed unique, only most of us aren't really that beautiful. I suck pretty hard under many ways, but don't come and tell me that there are many just like me. It is not true and it is probably a good thing.

 

Don't feel bad you are the one coming unglued for your capitalist masters. I misquoted the time period I heard that statement from. It was not the time of Jesus it was a latter date. That was my mistake but still consider how many years you needed to have over a billion.

I think my original point still stands. Focus on the math if you want and not the big picture. Capitalism in the American sense is evil and not sustainable.

You already have
I mean you do work a few jobs right and are still not "rich"

You should look for some help on that.

 

So you are admitting your value system is greed only like it's good? I would not call it greed necessarily. I liked the idea I could help the world. I liked the idea I could have weekends off and personal days. I liked the idea I would not have to work in a warehouse which I did once.

Just because you don't havbe empathy does not mean you can apply it to everyone else. Greed is not to own things others don't have it's to hoard. I pay a pretty high tax right now. Higher then I did a few months ago and I do so for my morals. If I thought like I you I would not do this.

 

Being the best version of yourself is not selfish.

If striving to be above average is "selfish" then so be it.

 

I am a freelancer for the most part, and the jobs come and go as I am needed.

There may be evil elements in greed, but it can also be used for the good.
Your desire to rise above an average warehouse job was part of your greed to grow beyond that. It was your employer's greed to hire you for your talents to better the company. It was your greed to better yourself so you could land a desirable and competitive job.

The 7 Deadly Sins are neither deadly or sinful. It's all Christian propaganda.

 

Did you leave this part of the definition out for a reason?

"and excessive desire for more of something than is needed"



Yes, I'm sure you just ignore that part because it doesn't fit very well into what you are trying to justify.



Oh, and one more thing... Where did I say striving to be above average was selfish?

 

Bloomberg he's a piece of work
I spelled shit wrong sorry

 

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. We all can make stupid blunders, but your hopelessly erroneous figures- which as best I can tell had no real point- expose the sloppiness of your thinking.

Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other system by many fold. It has brought a prosperity to more people than our ancestors could have dreamed possible. In the golden age of American capitalism- the age of the "robber barrons" millions of people were drawn here for opportunities they could not have in their own countries. People like you seek to deny our descendants those same opportunities.

Capitalism is the only moral economic system devised by societies larger than the tribe.

I doubt very much that you have given any serious thought to what effect an extremely successful business person contributes to society. In fact, I doubt you are even capable of such reflection.

 

No, I did not "focus on the math". The puerile nature of your "logic"- you inability to connect cause and effect- was more important than your jejune arithmetic error. Your mind is so muddled as to be unable to construct a logical syllogism.

For societies larger than the tribe, capitalism is the only economic system that does not tolerate the initiation of the use of force, fraud, or threat thereof. As such, it is the only economic system compatible with liberty. Now I would not expect a pint-sized statist (stalinist?) like yourself to value liberty. You and yours seem to think it is your due in this world to partake in the wealth that other people generate.

 

Lol oh my god

Capitalism is full of corruption. Buy design it is not moral you think only of yourself. To think of others takes from you and you must look out for #1.

 

No plain and simple

you might have found a way to justify your shitty view on life but most people are not like this. Don't place your bad poor choices on me

 

I dunno about that.

Most people, including you, yearn for an above-average life

 

No, you don't "think only of yourself". With your stalanist bent, you cannot even imagine what is required to build an economic system based on mutual cooperation- the "invisible hand" if you will. You have the mentality of a slave driver.

 

There is a serious disconnect in America between the haves and the have-nots. Today I saw the story of a Montanan packing into the Bob Marshall Wilderness area coming upon a helicopter on a sand bar with a man and woman fishing. How gross. The story gos that she was in the banking industry near Bozeman and piloted the chopper. Everyone but everyone in Montana knows that this is a travesty and prohibited by law in wilderness areas. Ignorance is not a plausible excuse, arrogance of the wealthy comes to mind tho.

 

I think the problem that's being overlooked even now is the reliance on corporations for campaign financing. It's not representative of the majority. Granted we share interests with some corporate entities, and that donations don't necessarily signal agreement on policy. But I feel like we had a good thing and now it has been nullified by a decision by the Supreme Court or something.

I have to read more about it. It looks like someone proposed an amendment to overturn the ruling, but I don't know the timeline or what became of it if anything.