Why a sanctuary?

Belief is not chosen, it is the result of experience. Atheism is the unknown to a Christian, you are an atheist, you are a bad experience, therefore atheists are bad. The same process that gave you a bad taste for Christians.

When people who read your lines shut down their computers at night, the only thing they remember about your insults is that you are an atheist and you insulted their beliefs. Plus, you are not the only rude atheist who makes a big splash.

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My dissenting voice makes this statement false by definition.

 

Your qualifier "if we are given an example," only proves that we all are not equal in opportunity of learning responsibility of self. My observations have shown me that very few of us do. Many people die of old age still believing that their despair and grief was the fault of others. This is not the fault of the student, rather the fault of the teachers. You cannot expect one to master physics before you teach them simple math, and one can only learn from those who know.

I would disagree. Comprehending such relationships does not imply virtue.

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No it doesn't....

Another statement of yours:

This makes your "dissenting voice" moot on that point.

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So, you just lackadaisically hit and run and care not that you may hurt someone? And you're proud of this?

 

Becoming then, such a teacher is your greatest responsibility. As you say the gatherers of the harvest are few and to wait for a critical mass that is less than "rare" does nothing to increase mass. For all who are in earshot of this conversation, that moment could very well be now. We can state with confidence that if it does not happen now it is not happening.

The person who feels empowered through manipulation is not a malfactor. He
has learned unsound principles well. He does not realize that he depreciates his own experience.

 

Although I experience no offense, I see that others are insulted. I see both.

 

No. Setting an example for those who wish to follow, and doing no harm, are my only responsibilities. I'm not the one to say that my path is right for another.

I doubt that a "depreciation of ones experience" is the result. Quite the opposite, every act is committed for a reward, even if that reward is a feeling, ie, superiority. The depreciation is from the viewpoint of others, which devalues the actor in the minds of the others, not within the self.

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Let's see if I have this right....You "see that others are insulted," yet you condone the insults because you "experience no offense" and the ones who feel insulted should not.

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I just couldnt resist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opYmrP06rxQ"]YouTube- Banished from Sanctuary (live)

 

If you are in every way sincere your example will be true. We teach by example without ceasing.

The true economy of this world, regardless of appearances, is equal measure.
There are no advantages, nor are there levels of difficulty. Such a man could never know the comfort of true friendship, and would be forever alert against disadvantage, constantly suspicious.

 

I am not condoning insults, I am describing the dynamics of conflagration. If you know the cause of suffering you can choose something else.

 

So who are these people you think you are defending, who are the people who I have badgered with insults to such a degree that they have a bad experience, the only person I hear whining about these supposed insults is you, who have admitted to not being insulted ironically enough.

Are you trying to troll me or something?

If someone is stupid enough to judge an entire ideology on what one person says or does then they deserve to feel insulted in my opinion.

 

I'm aware of personal dynamics, I have a degree in Psychology. I'm also aware that most people don't have an existential outlook on personal interaction, and therefore feel emotional pain when their self is attacked. The pain is real, whether you think they should BE insulted or not. Your existential awareness is not their reality.

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Pain is as real as pleasure, and each are followed by the other, we all share the same reality.
Just because a certain perspective makes the whole picture obscure doesn't mean it changes the picture. We do not bring truth to illusion to make the illusion real. We expose illusion to the truth and the truth dispels the illusion.
I have no degrees whatsoever, I am all in.

 

You're the one who won't let this go with a simple answer that some people just want a place to discuss their common beliefs without badgering from others.

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"I would just consider it weird, kinda like the family who lives in the large spooky farm house on the out skirts of town and raises there own pigs, shit in out houses and generaly never leave there property."
It is not weird but perfectly understandable when considering a crisis of conscience is a consideration of guilt. No one wants to be exposed guilty, it is difficult to face the measure of our own complicity.

 

The crisis in conscience emerges because their principle of arbitration does not sustain or guide, therefore they are lost and confused.

 

I am no criminal! Hit and run, what are you talking about? Do you mean I am supposed to stay on for a minimum amount of time or consistently check this thread if I decide to post in it?

If someone gets truly hurt when a stranger says something ridiculous like their religion farts in truth's mouth, then I am sorry for that, it just came to me in the moment and seemed like funny way of putting it. I won't apologize that that is my opinion, just for my delivery of it. Even then, everything I said may very well help strengthen someone's faith, so maybe I prove useful to them after all. Anyways, I put a good amount of value in laughter; not to be schadenfroh, but to help break from logic and reason.

I'd like to point out I stated that, at times, I am envious of people who have faith, because I do not seem capable of making that leap. I wish I could believe in something that has no absolute truth, with all my heart and mind, like many Christians do. And I respect the courage that can take, and I also respect the fact that people have different paths to living a happy and fulfilling life.

If my posts are too lazy or not determined enough for you JackFlash, I apologize but I post 90% of my comments while at work or in class, so I get interrupted often, and in turn I don't try too hard for high quality. And, you can always ignore my posts if they aren't up to snuff and/or hurting you.

 

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Did you even read why the sanctuary was first added to these forums?

It was not because of people throwing Christians to the lions it was because Evangelical Christians could not stop hounding others about Christ, who was badgering who?